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Jun 12 2016 07:17pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jun 12 2016 05:58pm)
Apparently a gay guy kissed the Muslim dude and that's what triggered him to go on a rampage.


And everyone knows it's gay if you kiss. He just wanted to have a quick fuck.
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Jun 12 2016 07:43pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 12 2016 07:13pm)
They probably justify it that way, but there are violent sects in every religion, even Buddhist. Violence in other things tends to follow cultural patterns, like poverty, education, etc.


I'm well aware of extremists Buddhists, they're responsible for mass graves in my old country ^_^
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Jun 12 2016 07:49pm
Well this is what happens when you don't say no homo.

Checkmate, queers.
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Jun 12 2016 07:55pm
fdp j'ai pas lis qu'un mot de cette connerie mais je veux juste dire

WE HAVE A PROBLEM FOLKS

IT'S CALLED

RADICAL

ISLAMIC


TERRORISM


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Jun 12 2016 08:23pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 12 2016 06:38pm)
Nah man. There's no way Muslim terrorism is because Muslims tend to live in the shittiest parts of the world with the greatest disruptions from the west actively making sure they don't get a piece of their own resources. It's just that Muslims are naturally violent.


The 19th-20th century West intervened in most parts of the world. It's surprising that this sort of situation only developed in one.

Societies face challenges as they grow and develop. Some aren't strong enough to make the cut. Japan had a uniquely easy job avoiding overt Western control, and that led to it's rapid emergence as a developed power. But even Korea managed to reach developed world standards, suffering first under Japanese rule, and then under dictatorship. China is both richer and more stable. The Polish were almost annihilated before World War I, and almost annihilated again during World War II. Even it's reemergence was limited to that of a client-state to the Soviet Union.

What is especially unique about the suffering of the Arab world? They were poor and undeveloped, in steep decline under the late Ottomans, is it really the West's fault they're still under-developed and poor?
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Jun 12 2016 08:42pm
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The 19th-20th century West intervened in most parts of the world. It's surprising that this sort of situation only developed in one.

Societies face challenges as they grow and develop. Some aren't strong enough to make the cut. Japan had a uniquely easy job avoiding overt Western control, and that led to it's rapid emergence as a developed power. But even Korea managed to reach developed world standards, suffering first under Japanese rule, and then under dictatorship. China is both richer and more stable. The Polish were almost annihilated before World War I, and almost annihilated again during World War II. Even it's reemergence was limited to that of a client-state to the Soviet Union.

What is especially unique about the suffering of the Arab world? They were poor and undeveloped, in steep decline under the late Ottomans, is it really the West's fault they're still under-developed and poor?


Those other examples haven't been nearly continuously occupied, had elected leaders overgrown consistently, etc. Or been a hot spot for the most important traded good in the world. Without our interference they might not be stable, but we definitely haven't made it easier, and there's really not anywhere else in the world that's comparable.
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Jun 12 2016 09:26pm
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Those other examples haven't been nearly continuously occupied, had elected leaders overgrown consistently, etc. Or been a hot spot for the most important traded good in the world. Without our interference they might not be stable, but we definitely haven't made it easier, and there's really not anywhere else in the world that's comparable.


I guarantee that a greater effort was made in trying to eradicate Polish culture than Arab.

Arabs have been running their countries for as long or longer than many others. They're missing a developed civil society, and it's been very difficult for them to develop one from scratch.
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Jun 12 2016 09:32pm
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I guarantee that a greater effort was made in trying to eradicate Polish culture than Arab.
Arabs have been running their countries for as long or longer than many others. They're missing a developed civil society, and it's been very difficult for them to develop one from scratch.


and this ?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paris-attacks-iraq-war-isis_us_5650e110e4b0d4093a5807ba

mission accomplished

edit; i may add iran prime minister that had the bad idea to nationalize oil in 1953 (cia coup) and whatever the whole list of "interventions" from usa (but also few from some others west countries) so basically predicting the history is very risky... In clear words im pretty much disagree with you.

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Jun 12 2016 09:45pm
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I guarantee that a greater effort was made in trying to eradicate Polish culture than Arab.

Arabs have been running their countries for as long or longer than many others. They're missing a developed civil society, and it's been very difficult for them to develop one from scratch.


The thing is after the 40's the attempt to exterminate the poles kind of stopped.

The middle east hasn't seen attempts to eradicate the culture, but it has seen attempts to change its culture to what we currently see. The United States created radical jihad educational materials and shipped them out for use in schools when we were fighting the communists. The Taliban still use the materials we sent.

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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 12 2016 07:45pm)
The thing is after the 40's the attempt to exterminate the poles kind of stopped.

The middle east hasn't seen attempts to eradicate the culture, but it has seen attempts to change its culture to what we currently see. The United States created radical jihad educational materials and shipped them out for use in schools when we were fighting the communists. The Taliban still use the materials we sent.


Really? Poland was the USSR's bitch.

Also, we intervened quite a bit in South and Central America in the 70s and 80s. There are some real SHIT HOLES (i.e. Nicaragua) and yet they don't export terrorism on a mass scale. Maybe the Mid East has some crazy combination of things that cause them to be fucked (Jews, poverty, women with ridiculous pubes, etc.)
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