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Jun 12 2016 05:38pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Jun 12 2016 04:26pm)
It's so surprising that a region full of people who have been dumped on over and over is a hotbed for groups that want us dead as a whole. I've determined it's because they must not like Democracy very much.


Nah man. There's no way Muslim terrorism is because Muslims tend to live in the shittiest parts of the world with the greatest disruptions from the west actively making sure they don't get a piece of their own resources. It's just that Muslims are naturally violent.
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Jun 12 2016 05:48pm
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Nah man. There's no way Muslim terrorism is because Muslims tend to live in the shittiest parts of the world with the greatest disruptions from the west actively making sure they don't get a piece of their own resources. It's just that Muslims are naturally violent.


There's also no way that there are any Muslim terrorists due to the fact that the Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule.
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Jun 12 2016 06:13pm
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There's also no way that there are any Muslim terrorists due to the fact that the Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule.


They probably justify it that way, but there are violent sects in every religion, even Buddhist. Violence in other things tends to follow cultural patterns, like poverty, education, etc.
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Jun 12 2016 06:17pm
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They probably justify it that way, but there are violent sects in every religion, even Buddhist. Violence in other things tends to follow cultural patterns, like poverty, education, etc.


I completely agree. Those factors are large, maybe even some of the largest, driving forces behind the violence and terrorism we see from many radicalized Muslims.

But we can't outright ignore the violence and Jihadism that is promoted in many portions of their religous doctrine.
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Jun 12 2016 06:41pm
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I completely agree. Those factors are large, maybe even some of the largest, driving forces behind the violence and terrorism we see from many radicalized Muslims.

But we can't outright ignore the violence and Jihadism that is promoted in many portions of their religous doctrine.


It's ignored by Muslims in the West all the time, and Christians rationalize away their own violent passages and immoral parts of their book. You don't have southern pastors quoting the Bible to support slave ownership (anymore) after all.

People will find violence when they will find violence regardless of religion.
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Jun 12 2016 06:50pm
Western and Islamic societies are at such radically different levels of development that the cultures have irreconcilable differences.

That and Florida produces crazy people.
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Jun 12 2016 06:51pm
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It's ignored by Muslims in the West all the time, and Christians rationalize away their own violent passages and immoral parts of their book. You don't have southern pastors quoting the Bible to support slave ownership (anymore) after all.

People will find violence when they will find violence regardless of religion.


I think that is because most of them, both Christians and Muslims, have assimilated into Western society and have subscribed to most Western thought.

When examining the Bible and the Quran, though, there are still very problematic ideas and beleifs in them that are not acceptable in most progressive Western socieites.

What's stopping a radicalized religous person from picking up their religions doctrine, reading a segment of scripture that promotoes violence, homophobia, mistreatment of women, or etc, directly intepreting that idea and acting upon it?

We can consider poverty, cultural conditions, economic conditions, and political conditions all we want, by my point is that religion and what their religous text says is also an important part of the equation here, and it is a reason why some religous people, particuarly Muslims, resort to violent terrorist acts.

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Western and Islamic societies are at such radically different levels of development that the cultures have irreconcilable differences.

That and Florida produces crazy people.


Floridian security guard that wanted to be a cop with known anger issues that was violent with women

I feel like I've heard this one before
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Jun 12 2016 06:58pm
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Western and Islamic societies are at such radically different levels of development that the cultures have irreconcilable differences.

That and Florida produces crazy people.


Apparently a gay guy kissed the Muslim dude and that's what triggered him to go on a rampage.
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Jun 12 2016 07:06pm
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Apparently a gay guy kissed the Muslim dude and that's what triggered him to go on a rampage.


I think it was he saw 2 gay dudes kissing and had an allergic reaction
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