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May 19 2016 04:32pm
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A new Washington Post poll found that 90 percent of Native Americans aren't offended by the Washington Redskins' nickname and an overwhelming majority consider it an unimportant issue.

The Post polled 504 people who identify primarily as Native American from across the country, including those who lived on reservations and those who were not part of a tribe.

The general population appears to care more about the name than Native Americans. A 2014 ESPN pollfound that 23 percent of the population favored a name change.

Thursday's findings by the Post match an Annenberg Center survey taken in 2004. The Post poll also found that 78 percent deemed the Redskins' name an issue that is either "not too" or "not at all" important.

Suzan Harjo, the lead plaintiff challenging the team's trademark protections, rejected the new results, saying it was an invalid way to surveying those in Indian country.

"I don't accept self-identification," Harjo told the Post. "People say they're native, and they are not native, for all sorts of reasons. Those of us who are leaders in Indian Country ... know who we are representing. We also know if we are representing a minority view. And this is not the case here. Our experience is completely the opposite of the Annenberg poll and this one. I just reject the whole thing."

Redskins owner Dan Snyder has maintained that he won't change the team name, which once again became a prominent issue after the 2012 season. Snyder has never budged from his stance, and team president Bruce Allen said last summer that Washington would not change the name even if it helped them secure a new stadium in the District of Columbia. The Redskins are looking for a new stadium site, though their lease is not up until 2027.

"The Washington Redskins team, our fans and community have always believed our name represents honor, respect and pride. Today's Washington Post polling shows Native Americans agree," Snyder said in a statement. "We are gratified by this overwhelming support from the Native American community, and the team will proudly carry the Redskins name."


As someone who lives close to DC and roots for the Redskins(even though I'm a Raiders fan), this story is a little more interesting to me than the typical SJW nonsense. This is a perfect example of PC, guilty white people latching onto a bullshit issue when the vast majority of the group "affected" don't give a damn. It's absolutely hilarious to watch all the PC idiots on ESPN react to this story.

Why is it that white people care more about the Redskins name than Native Americans?

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May 19 2016 04:35pm
Is Suzan Harjo white?

Just curious.

I'm really don't care about this but I'll racebait.

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May 19 2016 04:38pm
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Is Suzan Harjo white?


Are you trying to appeal to the GC crowd with this retarded rebuttal?
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May 19 2016 04:39pm
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Are you trying to appeal to the GC crowd with this retarded rebuttal?


Wondering who this person you're talking about is.

I'm assuming white male cis whatever.

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Wondering who this person you're talking about is.


I'm talking about guilty white people, not the Native American(I assume) woman who is behind the Redskins lawsuit.
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May 19 2016 04:54pm
You're making a good point. There are all these people up in arms about a racial pejorative, but White people don't really care about Native Americans and never really have.

I think people like advocating for changing the franchise's name from Redskins to something else because people like to feel a sense of righteousness. I think being self-righteous is psychologically appealing to most people; people enjoy telling other people they are wrong (in this case, people they label racist) and that they are right. They like having a sense of moral high ground.

I also think the SJW movement has a lot of outrage addicts. I think a lot of people just like to be upset about something and be morally outraged. So in short and to answer your question, I think people care more about changing the Redskins name than Native Americans because people like to feel a sense of self-righteousness, are addicted to outrage, and enjoy having a sense of moral high ground, even if it doesn't actually help anything (in this case, Native Americans).

Here's the part you probably aren't going to like. I think a part of the reason why religion is so psychologically appealing to people is similar to the reasons above. Christianity, for example, provides many opportunities for people be extremely self-righteous and morally outraged. I think SJWs and religious folk are addicted to the same sort of things in that sense. But religion has a lot of other psychologically appealing elements to it other than self-righteousness.
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You're making a good point. There are all these people up in arms about a racial pejorative, but White people don't really care about Native Americans and never really have.

I think people like advocating for changing the franchise's name from Redskins to something else because people like to feel a sense of righteousness. I think being self-righteous is psychologically appealing to most people; people enjoy telling other people they are wrong (in this case, people they label racist) and that they are right. They like having a sense of moral high ground.

I also think the SJW movement has a lot of outrage addicts. I think a lot of people just like to be upset about something and be morally outraged. So in short and to answer your question, I think people care more about changing the Redskins name than Native Americans because people like to feel a sense of self-righteousness, are addicted to outrage, and enjoy having a sense of moral high ground, even if it doesn't actually help anything (in this case, Native Americans).

Here's the part you probably aren't going to like. I think a part of the reason why religion is so psychologically appealing to people is similar to the reasons above. Christianity, for example, provides many opportunities for people be extremely self-righteous and morally outraged. I think SJWs and religious folk are addicted to the same sort of things in that sense. But religion has a lot of other psychologically appealing elements to it other than self-righteousness.


White people care about Native Americans about as much as Native Americans care about white people. There's no racial/ethnic monopoly on apathy.

I agree with much of what you are saying. People want to be on the right side of history. I don't think religion is psychologically appealing because it gives the opportunity to be self-righteous, but that's a completely different topic.

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May 19 2016 05:13pm
I think it was less about crackers caring about the name & more about the liberal media pushing this PC initiative, jah feel ?
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May 19 2016 05:17pm
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White people care about Native Americans about as much as Native Americans care about white people. There's no racial/ethnic monopoly on apathy.

I agree with much of what you are saying. People want to be on the right side of history. I don't think religion is psychologically appealing because it gives the opportunity to be self-righteous, but that's a completely different topic.


Yeah, that last bit was me drawing parallels of the psychological aspects between this facet of the SJW movement that you and I are criticizing and one component of the religion that you hold dear in order to challenge your perspective, but it was off-topic so I apologize and really shouldn't have included it.

But I agree with the sentiment of this thread and the point I think you are making. Honestly, just to reiterate, I think people just like being outraged about something and feeling like they are on a moral high-ground, even if it doesn't actually help anyone (and it doesn't actually help Native Americans to change the franchise name from Redskins).
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May 19 2016 05:25pm
On the subject of native americans white people should feel guilty.
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