https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

If you're into truth at all.

It is pretty proportionate, as far as who is arrested. It is who is in jail that is disproportionate.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 20 2016 11:21pm

How does that make your claim? , using the data tables it shows that blacks/African Americans who comprise 12%ish of the general population commit nearly 30-50% of all arrests. The very first stat listed, the second stat is that despite being such a minority in the population, they commit more murders by rate the any other demographic.
Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter 8,383 total 3,799white 4,379black. Then - half of all rapes, assaults ....that's not even close to fudge factor proportional..


I accept that there is sentencing desparity to a degree, to which I'd argue is more class related then race, and neither is acceptable, but your reading of the source is way offbase unless I'm something from your post.

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on May 21 2016 12:07am

50% of murders by 13% of the population is proportionate?

Good lord, it's worse than I thought.

It is true that each culture has their favorite crimes, which are often class driven.

For example child molesters are overwhelmingly white. If we were having a conversation about making children safer, it wouldn't be white people saying "you know, we really need to quit molesting these children", like the comic suggests.

can you integrate that in your calculations ?

You know, that fact still has a profound effect on people today.

I ask students during service learning trips (yeah I get access to students and tell them what justice is) why the nicer Schools get updated editions and equipment for sports and all that and they just say it is because those people are better than them. Because every message society sends supports that idea.

Some people will tell you that is ancient history. Those people are not in touch with things and probably don't talk about these things to the people it effects. They stay ignorant and assume to know.

In the hood though, the struggle is real.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 21 2016 09:17am

I would argue too many non whites are getting harassed and abused at the hands of the authorities

The police that get away with mistreatment entirely or via court decisions worsen the tensions between the community and the police when police should always be a part of the community not the enemy.

When combined with poverty and a profitable system that benefits most from incarceration rather than rehabilitation it sets up a perfect storm for failure.

I support people taking accountability and being held responsible for their actions including the police that abuse their power and people of any color that commit crimes but until we start focusing on changing lives rather than caging them the cycle only has room to repeat itself

It's in all of our best interest to set up a better system to get people out of poverty not find ways and reasons to keep them in prisons. Bettering conditions and opportunity is where the real profit for America lies.

Leave the prisons for the violent and the predators and focus on investing in everyone else.

Definitely a concern when talking about the relative mental health of middle class white communities.

But when looking at arrests on the whole it's pretty clear that certain groups are overly represented.

Well they fit the description.