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Apr 21 2016 08:15am
you can't throw ppl in prison for being retarded (=denying the 2 points above)....
if you do so you had to put 90% of america.

aint nobody good enough prisons for that...

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Apr 21 2016 08:17am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 21 2016 09:10am)
Expose them. Disinherit them through social pressure. Blackball them so they can't find work anywhere decent.

But once you give that authority over to Uncle Sam and take the power to affect the change from the people you also give the judgement to Uncle Sam. and open the possibility that Uncle Sam will use that power for himself or to appease the vocal minority. Its simply a power the govt shouldn't have IMO, especially as they are about the worse "lying police" i can think of. Politicians policing politicians about what scientists verify to be true? Slippery slope.


the problem is they've been extremely successful
facts don't matter anymore and discrediting them doesn't work because there is a demographic of people ready to believe their lies and paid for media that is ready defend them at all costs
http://www.desmogblog.com/2015/03/07/climate-deniers-double-down-doubt-defense-willie-soon
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/21/nyt-smears-scientist-willie-soon-for-telling-the-truth-about-global-warming/
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/02/24/right-wing-media-rush-to-defend-industry-funded/202648
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Apr 21 2016 08:28am
First we have to jail the God-deniers.
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Apr 21 2016 08:30am
Quote (duffman316 @ Apr 21 2016 08:17am)
the problem is they've been extremely successful
facts don't matter anymore and discrediting them doesn't work because there is a demographic of people ready to believe their lies and paid for media that is ready defend them at all costs
http://www.desmogblog.com/2015/03/07/climate-deniers-double-down-doubt-defense-willie-soon
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/21/nyt-smears-scientist-willie-soon-for-telling-the-truth-about-global-warming/
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/02/24/right-wing-media-rush-to-defend-industry-funded/202648


If there is a market there will be those attempting to feed it. Jail people and the dynamic just changes. Politicians won't actively endorse the materials they'll just elude to them. Look at the state od PAC's and you can see how a lobby for the energy industry can spread the same bile without politician endorsement. Unless you're suggesting going after the lobbyist industry, which on a topic such as climate change IMO is tantamount too suppression of free speech and suppression of scientific experiments. Even if these people are wrong they serve a purpose scientifically, their studies can be studied in turn to show flawed research techniques and flawed sampling.
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Apr 21 2016 08:44am
Honestly, I think so. I know it sounds extreme, but misleading lawmakers and the american people just so your company, or the company that hired you as a scientist, can make more money at the expensive of our shared environment is pretty sinister.

But being able to prove that someone deliberately was misleading sounds impossible.

This post was edited by Mastersam93 on Apr 21 2016 08:45am
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Apr 21 2016 08:44am
Of course not. we have freedom of speech and it should be protected.

If you think someone is wrong you disprove them with facts and convince people otherwise.
It should not be illegal to voice unpopular opinions and facts even when butthurt liberals want to ban dissent.

The regressives want to go back to the times where controversial scientists and philosophers were persecuted and executed for heresy.
Only permitting government approved facts, theories and discussion and putting people in jail for wrongthink is something right out of a 1984 novel.
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Apr 21 2016 08:45am
...there is absolutely no connection between the two and suggesting jail for either is downright moronic .
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Apr 21 2016 08:47am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 21 Apr 2016 14:45)
...there is absolutely no connection between the two and suggesting jail for either is downright moronic .


Seems to be a connection... Both distorting scientific studies and deliberately misinforming the public to make their products or services seem less harmful than they actually are.

Pretty much the same thing.

This post was edited by Scaly on Apr 21 2016 08:48am
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Apr 21 2016 08:48am
Fraud is a thoughtcrime, how dare you lock someone up just for making false claims in order to bilk the elderly out of their pensions?
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Apr 21 2016 08:49am
Quote (IceMage @ 21 Apr 2016 14:28)
First we have to jail the God-deniers.


Give me a peer-reviewed, scientific study that proves the existence of God and I might agree to that.
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