d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate > Your Thoughts On The United Health Pullout
1234Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 49,008
Joined: Oct 14 2010
Gold: 3,981.96
Apr 20 2016 07:49pm
UnitedHealth is pulling out of Obamacare in some places.
I saw the headline and it pissed me off.

I mean I totally understand that it costs them quite a bit but they're still seeing 12-figure revenue streams on their board.

But once again it seems like the billionares dont care about the rest of us to help the community.
Member
Posts: 51,928
Joined: Jan 3 2009
Gold: 8,933.00
Apr 20 2016 07:54pm
Thanks Obama
Member
Posts: 66,057
Joined: May 17 2005
Gold: 17,384.69
Member
Posts: 53,139
Joined: Sep 2 2004
Gold: 57.00
Apr 20 2016 08:09pm
$500MM LOSS last year on those policies no 1 care about revenue
Member
Posts: 53,433
Joined: Mar 6 2008
Gold: 7,525.35
Apr 20 2016 08:18pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Apr 20 2016 10:06pm)


how is this relevant to you?

Quote (excellence @ Apr 20 2016 10:09pm)
$500MM LOSS last year on those policies no 1 care about revenue


Exactly.
Business isn't a charity.
trying to shame them for not taking big losses is absurd and shows a lack of economic understanding.
Problematic and detrimental things like this were predictable from the outset but the leftists are more concerned with emotional appeals.
Member
Posts: 66,057
Joined: May 17 2005
Gold: 17,384.69
Apr 20 2016 08:30pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ 21 Apr 2016 03:18)
how is this relevant to you?


the inequality is too high, health is too much a busines, globalized & free healthcare like you can get in europe isnt possible in usa.
Member
Posts: 31,223
Joined: May 16 2008
Gold: 178.48
Apr 20 2016 08:42pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 21 Apr 2016 12:30)
the inequality is too high, health is too much a busines, globalized & free healthcare like you can get in europe isnt possible in usa.


Yes, free.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/272717/top-global-biotech-and-pharmaceutical-companies-based-on-revenue/

Europe has some of the largest pharmaceutical companies and they all have guaranteed cash flow because of the governments' worldwide funding them through socialized health care.

This is the problem, socialist democracies become a fascist state because they can't force the global companies to price their goods without a high profit margin, but they still have to buy them because the people demand "free" medicine.
Member
Posts: 28,331
Joined: Jun 9 2007
Gold: 11,700.00
Apr 20 2016 08:57pm
Quote (Hubris @ 21 Apr 2016 02:42)
... they can't force the global companies to price their goods without a high profit margin, but they still have to buy them because the people demand "free" medicine.


in case you did not know, in countries with some form of universal healthcare the regulators negotiate the prices for prescription drugs down - the pharmaceutical companies milk the us market for extra profit to offset that :D
Member
Posts: 66,057
Joined: May 17 2005
Gold: 17,384.69
Apr 20 2016 09:00pm
Quote (Hubris @ 21 Apr 2016 03:42)
Yes, free.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/272717/top-global-biotech-and-pharmaceutical-companies-based-on-revenue/

Europe has some of the largest pharmaceutical companies and they all have guaranteed cash flow because of the governments' worldwide funding them through socialized health care.

This is the problem, socialist democracies become a fascist state because they can't force the global companies to price their goods without a high profit margin, but they still have to buy them because the people demand "free" medicine.


that is wrong, first check out how much cost ambulance ride or 1 week at hostpital, compare how much get american doctors vs french doctors (and also hospitals directors LOL)
Second watch out generic drugs, finally ending up considering the base price of few exclusive to 1 laboratory drugs isnt the problem we are talking about.

Share or not, thats a choice, just if a share happend it would take 20 years, 1 president cant do it alone





now tell me how your chart is relevant :)

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Apr 20 2016 09:02pm
Member
Posts: 31,223
Joined: May 16 2008
Gold: 178.48
Apr 20 2016 09:05pm
Quote (brmv @ 21 Apr 2016 12:57)
in case you did not know, in countries with some form of universal healthcare the regulators negotiate the prices for prescription drugs down - the pharmaceutical companies milk the us market for extra profit to offset that :D


No doubt they milk the US because of it's systems, doesn't mean that any of this is free. The price for medicine is still incredibly high.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 21 Apr 2016 13:00)
that is wrong, first check out how much cost ambulance ride or 1 week at hostpital, compare how much get american doctors vs french doctors (and also hospitals directors LOL)
Second watch out generic drugs, finally ending up considering the base price of few exclusive to 1 laboratory drugs isnt the problem we are talking about.

Share or not, thats a choice, just if a share happend it would take 20 years, 1 president cant do it alone


http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/06/30/us/30procedures-intl-cost/30procedures-intl-cost-popup-v3.png


as above.

Obama care was never designed to simulate the health care of other countries, the systems are already too far gone for an overhaul of that caliber.
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
1234Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll