...this ain't France Jocko...we have both freedom of speech and the freedom to practice our religion in the U.S. of A. !

Well... I am very interested in History as an academic subject. I enjoy debating in general and I believe that the standards we apply to the validity of most historical claims have not been applied to Jesus.

I'm not convinced that Christianity is a fable. I'm not even convinced that Jesus of Nazareth was not a single historical figure. What I am convinced of is that there is not enough evidence to say that he definitely was and that he falls short of the mark that other figures (Robin Hood is a good example) have been considered likely mythological for not meeting.

It's a subject I find interesting is all. I simply think it's one of the few areas within Christian apologetics and the History of Christianity where there is potential for both a massive shift in opinion and where further debate could actually poduce something meaningful. Unlike regular apologetics like the conmanship of WLC or the continuous ranting of Dawkins where we've hit a bit of a brick wall where there can be very little shift in opinion.

I think the Historicity of Jesus is something that a lot of people haven't given much serious thought - they have just accepted it as fact without examining the evidence or hearing the arguments for and against. I also believe that the arguments against are convincing enough to cause the aforementioned shift in opinion should they be more widely discussed.



Ehrman is not Christian simply because he actually studied Christianity. If you were interested in the truth you would be interested in his point of view.

This post was edited by Scaly on Jan 29 2016 12:22pm

you can practice until it's not interfering with normal people

....and the best part is you don't get to make our laws...your opinion on religious freedom and free speech in America makes no difference whatsoever .

trying to sort out fake beliefs and true history fact isnt a task for religious people, especially those we can find in "usa", mostly mixing business, political campaign, and various sins in the name of J.

Not to mention the lies, propaganda, intoxications, diversion, in the name of "freedom of speech" in a country where medias are controlled by a some lobbysts. You can put your "laws" in your NSA hole.

...you are spinning your wheels son , pissing into the wind or as they say in Froggyland "c'est comme si on pissait dans un violon" . If you don't like our laws stay home .

It can't be that he's the center of the most numerous religion in the world. You're basically asking why I'd like to read about the history of alchemy even though I'm a chemist.

you better call me sir, and in anyway know im glad of the temple cleansing.

Are you saying the corpse I have been conditioned to worship from birth, may just be a complete fabrication?!

Boy is my face red.

Smh..