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Sep 15 2015 06:07pm
Not sure how many of you gals have been following the latest headlines about Syria, but it looks like Russia is stepping up its support for Assad. Over the last few weeks Russia has been steadily sending more and more hardware, and it also looks like they might be building a forward air base in Syria. If you guys have about 20 or so minutes please watch this weeks episode of the Mclaughlin group, it's really good and covers these new developments well. Pat Buchanan as always is the voice of reason and i completely agree with his analysis.

Skinned i hope you specifically watch this episode considering how anti-Assad you are, i'd like to hear your take.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34263955


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Sep 15 2015 06:22pm
In the last few months a few European nations have moved off Assad definitely stepping down. Britain is one of them. With support for the non completely barbaric rebels becoming less and less relevant, this is not surprising.
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Sep 15 2015 06:24pm
I've always loved watching these guys.

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Sep 15 2015 06:38pm
Quote (Caedus @ Sep 15 2015 05:22pm)
In the last few months a few European nations have moved off Assad definitely stepping down. Britain is one of them. With support for the non completely barbaric rebels becoming less and less relevant, this is not surprising.


Prediction: Russia will go into Syria militarily and the Europeans specifically France, UK, Germany will actually follow Russias lead because they will want some sort of stop to the immigration issue. You already see many countries trying to impose some sort of border controls. Once those fail the Euros will realize military intervention in Syria is the best solution to stop immigration and eventually send the masses back home.

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I've always loved watching these guys.


Yeah i watch it every single week. Pat Buchanan is my hero.
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Sep 15 2015 06:53pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 15 2015 06:07pm)
Not sure how many of you gals have been following the latest headlines about Syria, but it looks like Russia is stepping up its support for Assad. Over the last few weeks Russia has been steadily sending more and more hardware, and it also looks like they might be building a forward air base in Syria. If you guys have about 20 or so minutes please watch this weeks episode of the Mclaughlin group, it's really good and covers these new developments well. Pat Buchanan as always is the voice of reason and i completely agree with his analysis.

Skinned i hope you specifically watch this episode considering how anti-Assad you are, i'd like to hear your take.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34263955


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dijPltRAvHg


very interesting
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Sep 15 2015 06:58pm
saw assad on rt i think it was, talking about unification against isil e/ terrorists. he basically said if people want to stop the migrant flow they should help him. gotta wonder what that means for the snc & kurds if that happens though.




wonder who he's talking about when he says terrorists

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Sep 15 2015 07:25pm
Quote (Devil_kin @ Sep 15 2015 05:58pm)
saw assad on rt i think it was, talking about unification against isil e/ terrorists. he basically said if people want to stop the migrant flow they should help him. gotta wonder what that means for the snc & kurds if that happens though.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq62cZZ8SDs

wonder who he's talking about when he says terrorists


It's tough to predict what will happen with the Kurds. Once the moderates start getting steamrolled they will either a) join ISIS , al-Nustra or B ) run for the hills. Putin is right when he said if Assad would of fell the migrant crisis would be much worse. Most of Syrias population is in the western Syria under the control of Assad. They still have some sort of civility and a normal way of life compared to what's happening under ISIS control.

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Sep 15 2015 07:41pm
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It's tough to predict what will happen with the Kurds. Once the moderates start getting steamrolled they will either a) join ISIS , al-Nustra or B ) run for the hills. Putin is right when he said if Assad would of fell the migrant crisis would be much worse. Most of Syrias population is in the western Syria under the control of Assad. They still have some sort of civility and a normal way of life compared to what's happening under ISIS control.


i don't think it would be characteristic of the kurds to join either of those groups. they've fought for territory with isis as well & there's real bad blood there. assad said kurds are syrians or whatever but he'd likely boot them since they're combatants. hoping for rojava autonomy, they have a fascinating culture and political system.
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Sep 15 2015 08:17pm
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i don't think it would be characteristic of the kurds to join either of those groups. they've fought for territory with isis as well & there's real bad blood there. assad said kurds are syrians or whatever but he'd likely boot them since they're combatants. hoping for rojava autonomy, they have a fascinating culture and political system.

they've started advocating for autonomy via autonomism and have actually started working towards autonomical systems within Turkish Kurdistan from what i've understood. they could well accept Assad if it ultimately came to accepting to him if it meant peace in the Syrian region, as i've understood them the Kurds have moved towards democratic socialism from the Marxism-Leninism of the older PKK, so Assad would have to condede them very large rights and they'd effectively govern themselves without giving a damn about Assad.
or something

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Sep 15 2015 08:43pm
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they've started advocating for autonomy via autonomism and have actually started working towards autonomical systems within Turkish Kurdistan from what i've understood. they could well accept Assad if it ultimately came to accepting to him, but as i've understood them the Kurds have moved towards democratic socialism from the Marxism-Leninism of the older PKK, so Assad would have to condede them very large rights and they'd effectively govern themselves.
or something




"Under the Assad regime, Kurdish people were denied basic rights and citizenship. They were largely prevented from legally owning property and disenfranchised economically. These policies put pressure on Kurds to migrate away from Rojava, while the regime colonised the area with Arabs. Kurdish language teaching was illegal, children were not allowed to speak it in schools and Kurdish media wasn’t allowed."


http://thelionsofrojava.com/index.php/a-personal-account-of-rojava/

really interesting write-up on all aspects of western kurdistan. it's not sunshine and rainbows but it's definitely exciting and whatever happens it will be an example for many concepts.

that link will prob get you on a list though lel

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