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Sep 2 2015 05:40am
As I observe the hordes of Syrian refugees trampling through Europe I am struck by the stark differences between them and what we usually think of as a refugee in an area such as sub-Saharan Africa . These people are not your typical half clothed , distended bellied , swarming with flies stereotypes but rather they are well dressed in designer clothes , educated , well fed , carrying smart phones and travelling by train and even taxicab .

It seems to me they are far more interested in preserving an obvious materialistic lifestyle by demanding that Europe absorb them than any concerns they might have about strife in their homeland .

Is this the new socio-political reality of the 21st century in which a population beset by temporary troubles picks up and moves en masse to a more peaceful and economically successful country ?

Or is it a further sign of Muslim expansionism throughout the globe and a non-muslim population too cowed by political correctness to say no , go back home ?
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Sep 2 2015 05:50am
what a sad topic to troll about

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what a sad topic to troll about


...I am sitting here watching a Syrian refugee talk about paying over 200 Euro's per person for a taxi ride to Budapest after sneaking over the border . You may not wish to deal with the reality but it has to be faced and talked about .
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Sep 2 2015 06:03am
Im not disturbed by how "first world" the refugees are, the are fleeing a horrific war. I dont think they are using this as an opportunity to take advantage, they'd much rather be at home IMO. If war tore up the US you'd see people taking taxis and planes to escape it while on their smartphones. I think the focus should be on WHAT they are fleeing not HOW they are fleeing. I am very curious about how this has affected the UN's response. It seems to be if you have stories of hundreds of refugees dying in transit it would normally cause the UN to respond with a solid refugee camp with actual supplies, yet the refugees dont seem to have gotten this, is that a result of the high class of these refugees? are they too rich to be given refugee camps? They should just set up camps in Greece as there isnt much going on there anyways, the rest of Europe can pay Greece to take on refugees, rather than just giving them scraps for nothing in a bailout.
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Sep 2 2015 06:17am
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Im not disturbed by how "first world" the refugees are, the are fleeing a horrific war. I dont think they are using this as an opportunity to take advantage, they'd much rather be at home IMO. If war tore up the US you'd see people taking taxis and planes to escape it while on their smartphones. I think the focus should be on WHAT they are fleeing not HOW they are fleeing. I am very curious about how this has affected the UN's response. It seems to be if you have stories of hundreds of refugees dying in transit it would normally cause the UN to respond with a solid refugee camp with actual supplies, yet the refugees dont seem to have gotten this, is that a result of the high class of these refugees? are they too rich to be given refugee camps? They should just set up camps in Greece as there isnt much going on there anyways, the rest of Europe can pay Greece to take on refugees, rather than just giving them scraps for nothing in a bailout.


...allow me to offer another slant on this . When this is all said and done there will be Muslim enclaves in those European countries with the usual demands that we honor their culture up to an including sharia law .

Can these new " citizens " be relied upon to defend their new homeland against the spread of radical Islam considering they couldn't be bothered to confront it in the native land ?

Will they eventually side with the militant radicals or will they pick up and move again ?
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Sep 2 2015 06:17am
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Around 3,000 migrants remain stranded outside Budapest’s main railway station as Hungarian authorities continue to refuse them to travel on to Germany and beyond.

The decision is a reversal of previous policy which has allowed train-loads
of undocumented people to leave the country, in violation of EU rules Hungary has been struggling to enforce.

Some are migrants seeking to escape poverty. Others are refugees fleeing violence and war in Syria. Together they have been forced to sleep on the street, starved of their basic, essential needs, in the hope of leaving Hungary and finding asylum in more rich and generous countries.

Some who managed to leave before the restrictions were imposed have been arriving in Munich.

The EU rule requiring asylum seekers to apply in the first EU country they reach has effectively been suspended, but until unifying action is taken, thousands more will remain stranded.

....http://www.aljazeera.com/



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Deep divisions persist within the European Union as thousands of distraught refugees arriving from war-torn countries, mainly Syria, continued to head towards Western Europe via the continent's southern frontiers.

The French foreign minister on Monday criticised Hungary for its move to erect a fence on its border to stop people as Germany and Britain joined in to call for action to defend the "dignity" of refugees ahead of fresh emergency talks on September 14.


The three Western European nations have pressed for better processing of refugees arriving in southern Europe, as countries such as Greece, Italy, and Hungary have struggled to cope with the influx of refugees. Some 300,000 people have crossed this year alone.

Hungary is part of Europe, which has values, and we do not respect those values by putting up fences that we wouldn't even use for animals.

Laurent Fabius, French foreign minister

In an interview with French radio on Sunday, Laurent Fabius, the French foreign minister, said the measure was "extremely harsh. Hungary is part of Europe, which has values, and we do not respect those values by putting up fences that we wouldn't even use for animals".

Fabius also called the attitude of "a certain number of European countries, particularly in the east" who oppose a quota scheme for the distribution of refugees across EU member states "scandalous". He did not name the countries targeted by that remark.

EU member states have differed on ways to tackle the escalating refugee crisis in previous meetings.

"Europe needs to stop being moved and start moving," Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi said, calling again for a fairer distribution of refugees among the 28 member states.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/france-hungary-refugee-fence-fit-animals-150831062042118.html...
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Sep 2 2015 06:40am
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...that picture exemplifies my comments about the economic status of the " refugees " , well dressed in clean and current style of clothing , fresh haircuts , looking like middle class folks from anywhere .
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Yarmouk, set up in 1957 to house Palestinians, has become a symbol of the desperate plight of people in rebel-held territory [Getty]

The UN Security Council has demanded all parties to the Syrian civil war allow humanitarian aid to reach without obstruction the Yarmouk Palestinian refugee camp on the outskirts of Damascus, a site fighters of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) had until recently seized.

The unanimous appeal by the 15-nation council came after Pierre Krahenbuhl, head of the UN agency for Palestinian refugees, UNRWA, told the council behind closed doors about "extreme circumstances and hardship" in the camp, a diplomat who attended the meeting said.

"Members of the Security Council called for unhindered humanitarian access to the Yarmouk Camp and for the protection of civilians," the statement said.

The council "stressed the need to support the emergency relief effort for civilians in Yarmouk including through funding the $30 million emergency appeal".

The camp, set up in 1957 to house Palestinians, has become a symbol of the desperate plight of people in rebel-held territory since the Syrian government laid siege to it in 2013.

ISIL fighters attacked the camp earlier this month, leading to a round of clashes with other groups.

Most ISIL fighters had withdrawn last week after largely defeating their rival, Aknaf al Maqdis, leaving the al Qaeda-affiliated Nusra as the main group in the camp.

Condemnation

The council condemned "all acts of terrorism perpetrated" and demanded that Nusra and ISIL withdraw completely.

Before the fighters arrived in Yarmouk, Western diplomats and UN officials say, it was armed forces supporting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad who were preventing camp residents from getting aid.

"It is critical that all parties, especially the Syrian government, support the UN framework for responding to the situation in Yarmouk," a US official said on condition of anonymity.

"The unremitting violence and the Assad regime's nearly two-year-old siege of Yarmouk have reduced the camp to a living hell for the thousands of residents still living there," the US official added.

The council said it supported a three-point UN plan to assist civilians who were unwilling or unable to leave Yarmouk, help those who want to temporarily relocate from the camp to do so safely, and aid Yarmouk residents who have already fled.

The camp was home to some 160,000 Palestinians before the Syrian conflict began in 2011, refugees from the 1948 war of Israel's founding and their descendants. The Syrian government says only 6,000 remain.

Source: Reuters

this is what some are fleeing. Those sneaky Muslims..hidden agendas like life and all.
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Sep 2 2015 06:46am
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...that picture exemplifies my comments about the economic status of the " refugees " , well dressed in clean and current style of clothing , fresh haircuts , looking like middle class folks from anywhere .



just like a Republican always about the packaging never about the contents, people of a middleclass can't be chased from their country by war can they.
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