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Jul 19 2015 10:16pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jul 19 2015 11:30pm)
..it's not my decision whether they live or die .


That's such a bs cop out....it's not in my hands it's in the lord....


People die every time because they cannot afford healthcare, and we are all * myself included * part of the problem
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Jul 19 2015 10:20pm
Quote (bitg_pj @ Jul 20 2015 12:16am)
That's such a bs cop out....it's not in my hands it's in the lord....


People die every time because they cannot afford healthcare, and we are all * myself included * part of the problem


...never said a thing about God . I have no say as to whether someone gets help or dies of their illness and I don't buy into collective guilt .
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Jul 19 2015 10:29pm
Many PARD users will be to blame if Widow has a sudden death

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Jul 19 2015 10:29pm
This thread is bogus.

The real title should be "Do you deny treatment from people who pay for it and deserve it in order to provide for people who don't labor to support the system."

Hospitals all work at capacity generally and doctors almost always work overtime.
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Jul 19 2015 10:32pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 20 2015 12:29am)
This thread is bogus.

The real title should be "Do you deny treatment from people who pay for it and deserve it in order to provide for people who don't labor to support the system."

Hospitals all work at capacity generally and doctors almost always work overtime.



When you can't answer a question, reformulate the question
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Jul 19 2015 10:45pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Jul 19 2015 11:58pm)
in 2009 45,000 americans died every year from lack of access to medical care because they didn't have health insurance
http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/09/18/us-usa-healthcare-deaths-idUSTRE58G6W520090918


A butchered analysis of an inflated claim, that used sloppy non-science, that didn't control for other factors, created by a government-run national healthcare advocacy group, thats been oft-criticized by many in fact checks like this one:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/sep/06/alan-grayson-claims-45000-people-die-year-because-/
It extrapolated those numbers out of a measly ~350 deaths and didn't even check to see if they got insurance at some point during the ten years it took place.

Sick uninsured people are not typically turned away from medical care in America, despite your implications.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Jul 19 2015 10:58pm
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Jul 19 2015 10:56pm
Quote (2sexy4u @ Jul 20 2015 12:32am)
When you can't answer a question, reformulate the question


Don't you have better threads to troll?
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Jul 19 2015 10:58pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jul 19 2015 10:38am)
Depends how expensive the procedure/medicine is.


I never liked the setting of price tags on life.

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jul 20 2015 05:30am)
..it's not my decision whether they live or die .


We still do what we can. Might as well stop delivering any kind of health care then, affordable or not.

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This thread is bogus.

The real title should be "Do you deny treatment from people who pay for it and deserve it in order to provide for people who don't labor to support the system."

Hospitals all work at capacity generally and doctors almost always work overtime.


Not even sure whether you're a caricature for trolling purposes or for real

This post was edited by Neptunus on Jul 19 2015 11:01pm
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Jul 19 2015 11:02pm
Quote (Neptunus @ Jul 19 2015 08:58pm)
I never liked the setting of price tags on life.


It's awful but it's the nature of the business. If it costs millions to save a single life, you're shit out of luck I think.
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Jul 19 2015 11:16pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jul 20 2015 01:02am)
It's awful but it's the nature of the business. If it costs millions to save a single life, you're shit out of luck I think.


See if you feel that way if it's your wife or child
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