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well, healthcare isn't a right, it's a priviledge.
you should be able to support yourself & pay for your own healthcare or get a job that provides those benefits.
you shouldn't expect free healthcare, certainly, & you definitely shouldn't be forced to pay for obamacare.. that seems a bit like fascism.
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Mar 29 2017 05:07pm
Quote (KushKhalifa @ Mar 29 2017 05:20am)
well, healthcare isn't a right, it's a priviledge.
you should be able to support yourself & pay for your own healthcare or get a job that provides those benefits.
you shouldn't expect free healthcare, certainly, & you definitely shouldn't be forced to pay for obamacare.. that seems a bit like fascism.


The rest of the world disagrees.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-angela-merkel-nato-bill-defence-ignore-usa-germany-spending-a7650636.html



Every time I think he can't embarrass himself more and he manages to outdo my expectations. :rofl:

What a fucking joke.

EU countries could start asking rent money for all of them US military bases and nukes. Or we could just not be fucking morons and recognize strategic advantage when we see it. Once again Trump is undermining his own country's power.


Wouldn't say that Germany owes the money to the US, but they aren't fulfilling the NATO guidelines of 2% of GDP for defense spending. So while Trump's approach isn't ideal, Germany does deserve some scolding...Along with many other NATO countries.

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The rest of the world disagrees.


What makes you think that people in the US desire to be like "The rest of the world"?

This post was edited by RzChaos on Mar 29 2017 06:32pm
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Quote (RzChaos @ Mar 29 2017 08:31pm)
What makes you think that people in the US desire to be like "The rest of the world"?


Did I say they did?
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Mar 30 2017 07:24am
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Wouldn't say that Germany owes the money to the US, but they aren't fulfilling the NATO guidelines of 2% of GDP for defense spending. So while Trump's approach isn't ideal, Germany does deserve some scolding...Along with many other NATO countries.


Ow yes. And I'm insanely happy that during a crisis, those countries decided to cut a lot on the military and saved billions of cuts for the poor, elderly and the environment. (in a time of great "peace").
They are getting out of the crises as we speak, while tension around the world is rising. What do you think will happen ? Armies are slowly increasing in size, towards the 2%.
Now there is one "great leader" who wishes to blame everything and collects feathers up his ass. What will he say at this time in history? (you've seen that part of the news).

Eventually.. It looks like Germany and those other countries, will have to save the world from the US. For it's climate change destructive denial. Who do you think needs the scolding at this time in history ?
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Mar 30 2017 07:37am
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Ow yes. And I'm insanely happy that during a crisis, those countries decided to cut a lot on the military and saved billions of cuts for the poor, elderly and the environment. (in a time of great "peace").
They are getting out of the crises as we speak, while tension around the world is rising. What do you think will happen ? Armies are slowly increasing in size, towards the 2%.
Now there is one "great leader" who wishes to blame everything and collects feathers up his ass. What will he say at this time in history? (you've seen that part of the news).

Eventually.. It looks like Germany and those other countries, will have to save the world from the US. For it's climate change destructive denial. Who do you think needs the scolding at this time in history ?


this is certainly not the case for germany
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Mar 30 2017 07:47am
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this is certainly not the case for germany


Ow.. there were cuts.. It could have been cut a lot worse though.
That's what happens when we agree on a maximum 3% budget deficit.

Imagine having to pay 30 bil more to an army every year, in the last decade.

This post was edited by Knaapie on Mar 30 2017 07:56am
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The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don't get on the team, & fast. We must fight them, & Dems, in 2018!


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Quote (Knaapie @ 30 Mar 2017 14:47)
Ow.. there were cuts.. It could have been cut a lot worse though.
That's what happens when we agree on a maximum 3% budget deficit.

Imagine having to pay 30 bil more to an army every year, in the last decade.


dont pretend like the united states having a higher military budget than the next 10 countries in the world combined wasnt their own choice. dont pretend like they spend that much on military because their uncooperative allies force them, lol.

yes, the european nato members have been slacking, but this doesnt mean that the united states have spent even a single dollar more than what they would have spent anyways to satisfy their military industry and their national ego.
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