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Jul 17 2015 09:36pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Jul 17 2015 09:01pm)
Someone made a very good post on the reddit submission when this image was originally posted. I thought you guys would like to read it:


There's a few things he leaves out.

1. Hospitals will charge patients different amounts based on their income. There was a story in the news a year or two ago about a hospital which charged a woman a few thousand, then when they found out she owned a house upped the bills and placed a lien on her house. It's also well documented that hospitals in insurance networks will make deals with insurance providers to charge significantly less, but still enough to make a tidy profit. I don't know about medicare and medicaid, but payment from insurance companies isn't the issue. Larger hospitals will even be able to strong-arm the insurance companies for much higher payments than smaller organizations, this is also well documented, but regardless they won't lose money from an insured patient.

2. High cost for treating freeloaders isn't a huge cost for hospitals. Any amount which isn't payed will be written off on taxes. Hospitals also get subsidies from the government to pay for freeloaders without insurance. This is primarily an issue in areas with high instances of under or uninsured patients and finances are tight, but it isn't endemic to our healthcare system.
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Jul 17 2015 09:42pm
repeating myself but US definitively need to make it simple like in Canada, everyone have free health care including who has highest income. Rich people pay naturally more taxes since there income is higher.

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Jul 17 2015 09:43pm
Quote (2sexy4u @ Jul 17 2015 09:42pm)
repeating myself but US definitively need to make it simple like in Canada, everyone have free health care including who has highest income. Rich people pay naturally more taxes since there income is higher.


Yep, basically how it should be. Having an insurance industry in the middle is pretty silly, it just adds an unncecessary middle-man to pay. Even if their profits are only a small fraction, the overall cost to run the entire company is an inefficiency.
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Jul 17 2015 09:43pm
I was in the hospital 3 days after having an emergency appendectomy, bills around 55k... All of it covered because of healthcare.
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Jul 17 2015 09:53pm
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83k in drugs, holy, thats some epic weekend, hope you got some good stories at least.
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Jul 17 2015 09:56pm
just realized this bill is almost same as my family house lol, witch is big enough for family + separate appartement



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Jul 17 2015 10:23pm
some people are stupid enough to believe this is better than giving up their freedumbs for "socialism"
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Jul 17 2015 10:25pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 17 2015 09:43pm)
Yep, basically how it should be. Having an insurance industry in the middle is pretty silly, it just adds an unncecessary middle-man to pay. Even if their profits are only a small fraction, the overall cost to run the entire company is an inefficiency.


But but jerbs for the incompetent
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Jul 17 2015 10:27pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Jul 18 2015 12:23am)
some people are stupid enough to believe this is better than giving up their freedumbs for "socialism"


Or maybe people believe that a more free nation would result in better alternatives and cheaper services?

And stop acting like it's stupid for people to actually have principles and stand by them, even when those principles might not be in their immediate interest.
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Jul 17 2015 10:34pm
Lol.

This person must not have health insurance.

Hospitals will charge people without health insurance up to ten times more for any particular good or service.
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