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So... a lower chance of getting killed doesn't mean you are safer? :unsure:
There is no lower chance of being killed. The article states that the fatalities are lower. Don't conflate the two.
The profession isn't suddenly safer because less people are getting killed, especially when you ignore all the other data present.
There are attributing factors that lead to the lowering of fatalities, that the profession is suddenly safer is not one of them and to claim that it is is just ludicrous.
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The comparison is fatality rate per 100k full-time employees. Lowering the number of officers would bring the fatality rate up, not down.
Less cops on the streets = less cops getting killed. Smaller pool = less fatalities. It's quite simple.
Also, the numbers don't focus on high crime areas, they're lumping everything together as if it's catch all, it's not.
It's safer to be a cop down the street from me, but it's not safer to be a cop in baltimore city.
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What does that have to do with officer safety? That's officers killing OTHER people, it lowers the safety of everyone who is NOT an officer.
I think it would be obvious that cops are quicker on the trigger and thus aren't being killed. That doesn't mean they're safer, that just means they're killing someone before they get killed.
Let's also ignore the growing trend of the militarization of the nation's police forces.
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Lol, "justifiable." What shitty terminology. Let's just call it what it really is: any old excuse will do. As my old man is fond of saying, "a piss poor excuse is better than none at all."
Sorry, but cops killed over a 1000 people last year. Meanwhile, cops in England, Germany and Japan (collectively comparable populations) can't even scratch a dozen.
And? that doesn't really counter anything. I'm just sharing other data that is related and being ignored. Like typical pard fashion when quoting statistics, people ignore the outlying data.
We have trigger happy cops, a growing trend of militarized police forces, violent crime dropping and police numbers going down, better technology in protection and medical services. And people want to pretend that it's suddenly safer just because the fatalities are down? how about looking at police related injuries? or police related shootings in general? I'm sure that will paint a completely different picture when including instances where a cop was shot at but not killed or was shot and survived due to his armor or medical help. Does that mean his job was safer? not even remotely.
This post was edited by Arsenic_Touch on May 12 2015 03:01pm