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May 11 2015 04:28pm
Quote (bitg_pj @ May 11 2015 02:25pm)
So being against Israels policies is now anti semitism?


Luckily This law will be challenged, if it isn't I personally will start a crowdfunder and challenge the law myself.


I don't even want to Boycott Israel, but you can't silence a dissenting opinion of a state by calling it Racism .... Completely absurd and won't pass a charter challenge.


..no you won't .
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May 11 2015 09:05pm
i like there bagels so i will not go in jail



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May 12 2015 03:10am
Doesn't Canada already have hate speech laws? How is this anything new?
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May 12 2015 12:05pm
I'm happy to live in the US where we have most of the 1st. amendment still protecting our rights most of the time :thumbsup:
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May 12 2015 12:27pm
Quote (Cellmat @ May 12 2015 04:10am)
Doesn't Canada already have hate speech laws? How is this anything new?


It does. It sounds as if they are talking about using existing law on this, not passing a new one.
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May 12 2015 01:16pm
Quote (Santara @ 12 May 2015 14:57)
It does. It sounds as if they are talking about using existing law on this, not passing a new one.


A little while ago, the cons amended the hate speech laws to include "national origin". As such, I can say China is a shithole but I can't say the Chinese are bags of shit, legally.

The argument the cons are making is that boycotting Israeli products falls under discriminating against national origin.

This is, of course, a load of shit and isn't gonna stand if it's challenged.

Also worth noting that most of the groups they are taking about, such as the United Church of Canada, only boycott products made in the West Bank. That's a whole other can of worms to be opened.

This is all bark and no bite. Only a tactic in an election year to solidify a key part of their base.
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May 12 2015 01:24pm
Quote (PesChye @ May 12 2015 02:16pm)
A little while ago, the cons amended the hate speech laws to include "national origin". As such, I can say China is a shithole but I can't say the Chinese are bags of shit, legally.

The argument the cons are making is that boycotting Israeli products falls under discriminating against national origin.

This is, of course, a load of shit and isn't gonna stand if it's challenged.

Also worth noting that most of the groups they are taking about, such as the United Church of Canada, only boycott products made in the West Bank. That's a whole other can of worms to be opened.

This is all bark and no bite. Only a tactic in an election year to solidify a key part of their base.


Don't know about you, but the US already includes national origin in anti-discrimination law.
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May 12 2015 01:37pm
Quote (Santara @ 12 May 2015 15:54)
Don't know about you, but the US already includes national origin in anti-discrimination law.


At the same time, the US isn't as restrictive as Canada when it comes to hate speech. Some people like it and some people hate it.
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May 12 2015 01:47pm
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At the same time, the US isn't as restrictive as Canada when it comes to hate speech. Some people like it and some people hate it.


True, and tbh, I wouldn't have it any other way. I don't condone thought police.
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May 13 2015 04:30am
Quote (bitg_pj @ May 11 2015 09:25pm)
So being against Israels policies is now anti semitism?


Luckily This law will be challenged, if it isn't I personally will start a crowdfunder and challenge the law myself.


I don't even want to Boycott Israel, but you can't silence a dissenting opinion of a state by calling it Racism .... Completely absurd and won't pass a charter challenge.



You can be against Israeli gov but not against Israeli citizens, just saying ;)
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