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Apr 13 2015 06:46pm
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/04/russia-supply-iran-sophisticated-air-defence-system-150413180038692.html

As the Iran nuclear talks are going ahead and talks of sanctions being lifted Putin once again proves himself a genius by selling the Iranians the S-300 missile defense system to Iran, valued at about 800 million and it is predicted that the Russo-Iranian arms trade will reach billions of dollars.

This deal was placed on hold in 2007 due to the sanctions but Putin just gave the green light so the Iranians should be getting these any day. So you might ask why is this significant? Well think about it this way if the nuclear deal fails it follows that the Iranians will continue with enriching Uranium and eventually have their own nukes. Neither the US, Israel or the Saudis want the Iranians to have nukes for obvious reasons and i'm assuming would attempt a preemptive strike. But if Iran is stockpiling advanced anti-aircraft, and anti missile defense systems it makes it that much harder to actually carry out air strikes or a full scale war. Putin is the biggest threat to US hegemony not only in Europe but in the middle east. Seems like he is one move ahead of us all the time. We try to take away their biggest black sea port at Sevastopol, he annexes Crimea, we try to help and arm the Syrian rebels he keeps Assad afloat, we try to hedge around the growing Iran problem he sells them advanced weaponry... thoughts?
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Apr 13 2015 06:49pm
I suspect that the Iranians will abide by the restrictions for the 10 years, after which their technological development will be such that they could obtain a weapon within weeks.

The Middle East has a bloody future ahead of it, you have liberals to blame.
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Apr 13 2015 06:53pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Apr 13 2015 05:49pm)
I suspect that the Iranians will abide by the restrictions for the 10 years, after which their technological development will be such that they could obtain a weapon within weeks.

The Middle East has a bloody future ahead of it, you have liberals to blame.


Conservatives created the current Middle East.
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Apr 13 2015 07:07pm
Even though i consider myself conservative i have to say that the Iran deal is our only chance, well besides war to keep tabs and at least hold off Iran getting the nukes. With no deal they will just develop nukes and Russia and China will sell them weapons regardless just to counteract US hegemony. If i was a policy maker i would make the deal, try and get as much as we can, ideally not only stop weapon grade Uranium enrichment but also try and keep tabs on their military bases. If no deal a preemptive war would be VERY costly and much more complicated with S-300 and other advanced weaponry that they possess. Take the deal, buy time, see what they got as far as weapons, bases, capabilities and try to go for one of our typical regime changes. As sanctions are lifted more Iranians people will be concerned with affluence and become progressive i think that's our best way to keep them at bay.
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Apr 13 2015 07:30pm
long live Iran
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Apr 13 2015 07:30pm
Holy FML........ Getting worried......... ..
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Apr 13 2015 07:42pm
Libya has stock of the same SAM/AA systems, we had no problem enforcing a no fly zone over that country (Hillary's war). I'm not sure why people are so panicked. This is old tech anyway, newest system russia is using is the s-400.
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Apr 13 2015 08:04pm
I'm more comfortable with Iran having nukes than I am with Israel, let them both have weapons to stop each others stupidity
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Apr 13 2015 08:17pm
Quote (JLAudio @ Apr 13 2015 06:42pm)
Libya has stock of the same SAM/AA systems, we had no problem enforcing a no fly zone over that country (Hillary's war). I'm not sure why people are so panicked. This is old tech anyway, newest system russia is using is the s-400.


Read the article the Russians are offering the modified, modernized version of the S-300 the S-300VM or Antey-2500. The point is we need this deal to go through so we can get some sort of foothold, Iran is not Libya i think we can agree if we go to war with Iran it would be one of the most costly wars this isin't Iraq or Afghanistan.

I would agree its not the most up to date tech its still an upgrade of Irans AA

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 13 2015 08:21pm
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Apr 13 2015 09:17pm
deal or no deal due the way russia is acting those things will be in Iran whether or not the deal is or isn't signed. Russia is pissed at the west and can use this as their bargaining chip to keep crimea keep their influence in Ukraine and drop the sanctions that are fucking em.

kinda surprised they didn't try this shit before.
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