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Apr 12 2015 11:32am
Quote (Valhalls_Sun @ Apr 12 2015 06:08am)
This is taken from the list of the "Gag Law, or in Double speak the Citizen's Safety Law

that they were protesting, some of the points are frighteningly familiar aren't they? how many will we concede for our imaginary safety?





http://i62.tinypic.com/2qtwk6u.jpg



All of them ... That is some draconian shit right there
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Apr 12 2015 07:46pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Apr 12 2015 12:47am)
I'd love for our federal representatives to have to walk through a sea of disapproving holograms on their way in to work. We need a permanent holographic protest.


haha
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Apr 12 2015 07:59pm
Quote (Valhalls_Sun @ Apr 12 2015 05:08am)
This is taken from the list of the "Gag Law, or in Double speak the Citizen's Safety Law

that they were protesting, some of the points are frighteningly familiar aren't they? how many will we concede for our imaginary safety?





http://i62.tinypic.com/2qtwk6u.jpg


That shit is fucked up. Just wow.
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Apr 13 2015 08:55am
It was definetely a cool and original way of protesting.

The law shouldn't be around for long since the only party that supports the law (PP, the one that's governing), is going to lose absolute majority at the end of the year. All the other parties have said they'll get rid of it after the elections.
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Apr 13 2015 09:12am
Quote (Valhalls_Sun @ Apr 12 2015 05:08am)
This is taken from the list of the "Gag Law, or in Double speak the Citizen's Safety Law

that they were protesting, some of the points are frighteningly familiar aren't they? how many will we concede for our imaginary safety?





http://i62.tinypic.com/2qtwk6u.jpg


holy crap - thats some far far right bs, no wonder Spain is so screwed up.
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Apr 13 2015 09:59am
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holy crap - thats some far far right bs, no wonder Spain is so screwed up.



Doesn't the language remind you of homeland security speak?
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Apr 13 2015 10:09am
Quote (Valhalls_Sun @ Apr 13 2015 10:59am)
Doesn't the language remind you of homeland security speak?


It makes Homeland security look like a bastion of modesty, even GWB2 would cringe at that.
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Apr 13 2015 10:40am
Quote (card_sultan @ 13 Apr 2015 18:09)
It makes Homeland security look like a bastion of modesty, even GWB2 would cringe at that.


Keep in mind that the list is biased though.

The law doesn't talk about photographing the police, but rather spreading personal photos and information of policemen in order to get people to mob them and their families (which has happened in the past).

It also specificaly says that agents aren't allowed to profile anyone bassed on race, sex, religion, etc. And afaik it doesn't say anything about press being banned.

Personally I'm against this law mostly because I don't think the government should be able to dismiss protests... the should solely be the supreme court's responsability. The majority of the other rights that this law revokes have been heavily abused over the last few years.
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#19
Apr 13 2015 10:57am
more from the links I can find on the Law.


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Cyberactivism

Together with the Citizen Safety Act, the new Penal Code will also criminalize online activism and organizing imposing sentences between three months to one year to those who “emit slogans or messages”, “incite any offense of disorderly conduct,” incuding “disturbing the public peace.”

Distribution or public dissemination through any medium, of messages or slogans that incite the commission of any offense of disorderly conduct under Article 557 of the Penal Code, or serve to reinforce the decision to carry them out shall be punished with a fine of three to twelve months or imprisonment from three months to a year.

ALSO READ: Spain: More than 6,600 cases of torture or ill-treatment by police since 2004
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Apr 13 2015 11:00am
Quote (zarkadon @ Apr 13 2015 11:40am)
Keep in mind that the list is biased though.

The law doesn't talk about photographing the police, but rather spreading personal photos and information of policemen in order to get people to mob them and their families (which has happened in the past).


So you're allowed to photograph police, just never show them or talk about them to anyone

Thats so much more reasonable <------ ironic double talk.

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