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Lifetime unemployment benefits - 12 weeks. Maximum of $500/month because that's all it costs to rent a room in a house on craigslist and afford enough ramen to eat until you can get a job and get back on your feet.
Welfare spending - zero.
Medicaid - zero.

Getting a job is easy, people are just stupid and lazy and refuse to work at a fast food restaurant. My girlfriend had no job experience whatsoever, so she got a job as a server at Buffalo Wild Wings. Her W2 was $41,000. Why can't anyone else do that?

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This post was edited by AspenSniper on Apr 8 2015 09:01am
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Apr 8 2015 09:01am
...what does unemployment insurance have to do with helping the poor ?
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Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Apr 8 2015 10:01am)
...what does unemployment insurance have to do with helping the poor ?


Because it prevents people who lose their job from becoming poor. It should never take more than 1 week to get a new job. This gives you the chance to lose your job 12 times in your life.
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Quote (AspenSniper @ Apr 8 2015 10:02am)
Because it prevents people who lose their job from becoming poor. It should never take more than 1 week to get a new job. This gives you the chance to lose your job 12 times in your life.


have you started working yet? it took me 3 months to get a job once i was out of university
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Apr 8 2015 09:17am
Quote (duffman316 @ Apr 8 2015 09:15am)
have you started working yet? it took me 3 months to get a job once i was out of university


im guessing you werent willing to accept a menial wage, making more than 500$ a month isnt hard even parttime at mcdonalds.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 8 2015 10:17am)
im guessing you werent willing to accept a menial wage, making more than 500$ a month isnt hard even parttime at mcdonalds.


not just that but the interview process itself can take weeks
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Apr 8 2015 09:25am
Quote (AspenSniper @ Apr 8 2015 03:02pm)
Because it prevents people who lose their job from becoming poor. It should never take more than 1 week to get a new job. This gives you the chance to lose your job 12 times in your life.




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Quote (thesnipa @ 8 Apr 2015 15:17)
im guessing you werent willing to accept a menial wage, making more than 500$ a month isnt hard even parttime at mcdonalds.


McDonald's wouldn't employ me... I was 'overqualified' :(
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Quote (duffman316 @ Apr 8 2015 10:15am)
have you started working yet? it took me 3 months to get a job once i was out of university


I've been working since I was 15. I worked at a carry out pizza restaurant for 8 years, including thru all 4 years of undergrad. Graduated in 2011 with a bachelors, 2013 with a masters in business administration. I worked a 40-50 hours+ a week white collar sales job from 2011 -> including when I got my MBA full time at night.

I got fired on New years eve 2013 when the start-up I was working for collapsed due to the CEO being raided by the SEC and FTC for taking money illegally from a gov't program. I got a new job 3 days later as a commission-only salesperson. I didn't make a lot, but I made about $350/week while applying for better jobs, and that kept some canned veggies in my mouth and a roof over my head. Then I landed an awesome job in early February and I'm making beyond 6 figures. So yeah, it took me over a month to "find a new job" but I worked at a job that I snagged in 2 days after being fired because I didn't mope. I literally went to a temp agency the day I got fired and they connected me with a sales company that had nothing to lose hiring a commission-only sales rep, so of course they hired me in 2 seconds and I started the next day. I could've just as easily gotten a serving job, retail job, etc. Just drive around and scour Craigslist for 12 hours a day til you land something. It's way easier than people make it out to be.

My point is, get a shitty job temporarily while you find a good job rather than mooching unemployment while you interview/apply.

In your case, when you graduated you should've gotten a restaurant job or retail job for 3 months until you could find a job that suited what you got your degree in, or whatever your goal was. Not sitting on your ass applying and interviewing and doing no work for 3 months.

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Apr 8 2015 09:40am
Lol, OP went full blown.

Quote (AspenSniper @ Apr 8 2015 10:37am)
I've been working since I was 15. I worked at a carry out pizza restaurant for 8 years, including thru all 4 years of undergrad. Graduated in 2011 with a bachelors, 2013 with a masters in business administration. I worked a 40-50 hours+ a week white collar sales job from 2011 -> including when I got my MBA full time at night.

I got fired on New years eve 2013 when the start-up I was working for collapsed due to the CEO being raided by the SEC and FTC for taking money illegally from a gov't program. I got a new job 3 days later as a commission-only salesperson. I didn't make a lot, but I made about $350/week while applying for better jobs, and that kept some canned veggies in my mouth and a roof over my head. Then I landed an awesome job in early February and I'm making beyond 6 figures. So yeah, it took me over a month to "find a new job" but I worked at a job that I snagged in 2 days after being fired because I didn't mope. I literally went to a temp agency the day I got fired and they connected me with a sales company that had nothing to lose hiring a commission-only sales rep, so of course they hired me in 2 seconds and I started the next day. I could've just as easily gotten a serving job, retail job, etc. Just drive around and scour Craigslist for 12 hours a day til you land something. It's way easier than people make it out to be.

My point is, get a shitty job temporarily while you find a good job rather than mooching unemployment while you interview/apply.

In your case, when you graduated you should've gotten a restaurant job or retail job for 3 months until you could find a job that suited what you got your degree in, or whatever your goal was. Not sitting on your ass applying and interviewing and doing no work for 3 months.


I bet you spent your entire childhood sitting on your ass, you lazy bitch.

Every child should be employed when not in school and doing homework.

This post was edited by Skinned on Apr 8 2015 09:43am
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