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52K is more then most Americans make and is on par with a tenured teacher or many starting professors which takes a great deal more education and investment as an occupation. We dont pay our active military 52K on avg let alone 150K if you want to bring up the "dangerous profession angle" (not even top 5).
If police officers are willing and able to take the job at 52K then thats what the market bears. Since these men and women are publicly funded, then I sure as shit dont want more theft via my taxes to increase to pay an artificially high salary for predominately road pirates and victim-less crime enforcement.
The recent massive reduction in low level enforcement of ordinance in NY shows us that the public and society can handle far less police intrusion into our daily lives.




This I agree with, it's one of the things that I found disturbing about the michael brown shooting. People kept saying "unarmed" like a mantra which implied not dangerous while dismissing the fact MB attempted to get an officers firearm or that the size disparity between the two ought to have been resolved in some brawl instead.



This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Jan 9 2015 12:00am

And being an urban cop is significantly harder than most jobs, derp.

You think a job is "harder" therefore they should get paid 5-6x more than the average person they are allegedly serving, plus insane benefits?

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Jan 9 2015 12:49am

Absolutely. Cops keep the peace. They are probably THE most important job in society.

They should at least raise the bar on entrance and training then. I feel like its not too high even though the supply for cops outweighs demand.

Police should be under a close eye, and in time of police brutality should be slammed into the system, do not pass go.. With that being said, if your job was to protect and serve, and your life is constantly in danger, even the easy aspects of it like traffic patrol, you deserve compensation. My brother in law was a good cop who's career ended early because he tore his rotator cuff apprehending a suspect. His "insane" pension is roughly 30k a year, and out of pocket around 500ish a month for health insurance for his family.. And that was in one of America's top 20 most dangerous cities, Salisbury Maryland.

Cops deserve a whole lot more than what they get, in every aspect of that statement.

Yay!! NIN isn't a racist!!! kids ride where ever you want on the bus!

I'm not either, What I am is against a police state, now we don't know the back story on this movie, but we do know is that when we come in the perp. is on his knees cornered by the cops, and is asking them why they want to arrest him, the one cop tells him to shut up and lay down, and he does answer fuck no why do I have to? Then the other Cop loses patience and says" I'm not doing this all night" and grabs the perp and puts him on the ground.

Now this is the common trend....cops lose patience.. put citizen on the ground and the scene turns to shit.
Cops lose patience.....turns to shit!!!
public servant loses patience with those he's supposed to serve and they wind up: tazed, beaten, and dead
cop loses patience is the fucking common trend

if Darren Wilson had not slammed the car door into Michale Brown and shouted "fuck you" If instead he had kept his cool and called for back-up look how different things would be
if Daniel Pantaleo had taken the time to talk to Eric Garner look how different things would be
if Tim Loehmann had taken just a few more seconds to survey the situation before pulling his trigger look how different things would be

the sad thing is I could fill this page up with cases where if a police man had used just a little patience lives would have changed.
I know you blue-bloods will rally and say every second counts and it's the cop's life vs. the perp's, but we've been witness to the fact that it's not true
that discernment is the true right way, policing our streets with the Marine Creedo of kill em' all and let god sort out the good ones is not policing our streets
it's a form of terrorism

how can some cap of compensation relative to the public they serve have anything to do with an argument that is clearly a supply vs. demand driven scenario.

Less cops want to work in urban areas with high crime rates, therefore to ensure good candidates rather than the bottom of the barrel you need to pay more.

This same type of wage setting equality bullshit is the same force that drives my special education teacher girlfriend to be paid on the same scale as a gym teacher even though they were hired the same year and she was 1 of 3 qualified candidates and he was 1 of 214. No im not fudging those numbers you read them correctly.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jan 9 2015 09:44am

Tasers are not always effective. They should carry tasers and guns. They should use escalating levels of force depending on the situation.