Only those who killed civilians in purpose the achieve political goal (Terrorists) to achieve joy (Psychopaths) to gain money (Sociopaths)
and only if you prove their fault undoubtedly, Yes.

Any person condemning the death penalty while simultaneously advocating the lifelong sentence of solitary confinement is a coward who would rather torture someone mentally than kill them, its a simple as that.

-Further defining the cases that could receive the death penalty

im fine with that

-removing the death penalty announcement to avoid jurors being swayed

im fine with that

-increasing mandatory death row stays to many years

im fine with that

-increased funding to the innocence project

im fine with that

-putting a 100% blanket ban on the death penalty because you think its incorrectly administered 99% of the time

is a fucking problem logically



for people who dont know:

Our nations highest security prison is ADX Florence where the most prolific and dangerous prisoners of our country spend 20+ hours a day confined to a cell alone, then there cell door opens, they walk into a hall way, and receive time in a shower and workout room, all without human interaction. The men who live in these cells, mostly gang leaders or terrorist bosses, almost all go insane. They are slowly tortured by their own thoughts and suicide rates and attempts are frequent.

Solitary confinement is the constant answer from people regarding super violent prisoners. The fact that they are in prison does not stop them from raping and killing other people. But to segment them from the population forever is simply to torture them, plain and simple.

By all means regulate the shit out of the death penalty, advocate for changes in the system if you really think anyones listening and willing to change it, but throwing a blanket ban on the practice is cowardly.

You're a coward who isn't man enough to give them the life long torture they deserve.

See, I can say emotionally charged insults too

for anyone not familiar with the norweigan model heres an accurate summary:

2-3 times more effective than US prisons, 2-3 times more expensive (see a pattern?)

Ive been advocatting for a long time for drug and property offenders to live in a factory/prison combo. A forced work ethic is the real answer to recidivism rates.

so your argument for anti-death penalty is that prisoners arent being punished enough by killing them so they should be tortured?

interesting stance

Death sentence was banished from most advanced countries for a reason, and people that wrote those laws were far from stupid and far from being hippies.
It's so easy to end up executing political opponents by claiming they are "terrorists" (put some countries names inthere ).

Others reasons: judgements mistakes, martyrs creation, some others reasons maybe someone got a list ?

And those people should have further written specific guidelines for using the death penalty rather than taking the easy way out and banning it outright.

Ill be the first person to admit its overused and perhaps if used correctly there would be 6-7 people a decade who should receive the death penalty, but to run from a difficult issue by banning it is lazy legislation.

Also take into account that nowhere in the developed world are there prisons as violent as the USA except Russia. (and we all know justice in Russia's cj system is worse than the US)

Minimum sentencing has also shown to be a failure, along with three strikes laws. Essentially, a person commits a crime, but it wasn't as bad as someone else. In our car theft example, let's say the thief steals a car in a parking lot with no one around in order to pay his kids' health insurance.

The system should probably look at reforming such a person by providing them with resources and education, seeing as how their crime wasn't violent and was being done out of necessity.

Yet, under minimum sentencing and similar laws, they spend 20 years in prison because we see his actions as equivocal to pulling a car over at gunpoint.

Because of stuff like this, we have overcrowded prisons filled with nonviolent drug addicts who got caught more times than college kids across town.



It's almost like most of realize *GASP* how bad solitary confinement can be and aren't arguing it because we want to torture people.

If our system can't imprison people in a humane way, the solution isn't for us to execute them. Maybe we should have an amendment or something banning cruel and unusual punishment?

But seriously:

Some criminals are so incredibly dangerous they are kept in isolation out of necessity. Examples include mob bosses ordering hits and carrying out business as usual because they smuggled a cell phone in or send messages from inside prison.

Luis Felipe is currently at Florence in solitary for this very reason. He ran the Kings for years from behind bars. Robert Hanson, the spy who turned over numerous sources and FBI assets, is also at Florence. Give the guy a smart phone for an hour and who knows what kind of damage he could do.

This is a separate issue from the death penalty. It's more about visitation rights of prisoners, better security, better trained staff, etc. However, if we can't even support incarceration for the most dangerous of criminals, how can we issue capital punishment, which is a permanent, irreversible sentence?

We can always improve prison conditions, especially now that we're beginning to understand how terrible solitary can be. We can't reverse a completed death penalty.

Only one vote for undecided is the real tragedy

i agree with your statements. the portion who i believe should be eligible for death penalty is extremely small. Im essentially arguing against the banning of the death penalty so it can be reserved for people i qualify as broken humans. Some mentally ill for sure, some just psychopaths, some high level criminals as you stated. Blood, crips, aryans, kings, etc.

I dont see solitary as a viable replacement for super violent people because its torture, at the same time reintroduction to the general prison population is also unacceptable. So there is no middle ground but death. A sentence in Florence is a death sentence. You dont leave until you die. The life you lead is tortuous and drug out, rather than swiftly over.