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beotos

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Dec 10 2014 03:44pm

For me, the existence of things necessitates God.

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Dec 10 2014 03:44pm

Quote (dude_927 @ Dec 10 2014 04:38pm)

in what way does scripture clarify? how can you verify that the scripture is full of anything but legends voted upon by a committee?

then i am doomed, i want to have faith because apparently that is my only requirement but even you agree i cannot will myself to believe so i am then doomed from birth to hell, i wouldn't have made this thread if i thought it wasn't worth trying for, is god that big of a jerk really?

By having a sound understanding of the history of the gospels.

I agree with Widow, you don't want faith. The type of person who genuinely wants faith and asks God for it, isn't the type to not receive it.

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Dec 10 2014 03:47pm

Quote (IceMage @ Dec 10 2014 09:44pm)

By having a sound understanding of the history of the gospels.

I agree with Widow, you don't want faith.

And how do you know that those Arent lies? For all we know about religion, islam could be the only true *faith*, your taking faith on faith.

Quote (beotos @ Dec 10 2014 09:44pm)

For me, the existence of things necessitates God.

why?

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Dec 10 2014 03:48pm

Quote (haloneya @ Dec 10 2014 04:42pm)

Your taking his Words out of content and totally missing the point.

...not at all...from the context and content of his posts I am simply calling him a liar .

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#15

Dec 10 2014 03:48pm

I believe in a supreme intelligence, primary cause of everything.
all that was not created by man, was created by God.

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Dec 10 2014 03:48pm

Quote (haloneya @ Dec 10 2014 04:47pm)

And how do you know that those Arent lies? For all we know about religion, islam could be the only true *faith*, your taking faith on faith.

That's a silly way to view history critically...

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Dec 10 2014 03:49pm

Quote (IceMage @ Dec 10 2014 09:48pm)

That's a silly way to view history critically...

How is asking critical question on the validation of *historical facts* silly?

This post was edited by haloneya on Dec 10 2014 03:52pm

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Dec 10 2014 03:50pm

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Dec 10 2014 04:48pm)

...not at all...from the context and content of his posts I am simply calling him a liar .

ok so apparently you know me better than i know me? based on what 10 posts? the power of presupposition...

e: and what kind of a moron wouldn't want to just beleive in god if thats all it took for salvation? are you even serious right now?

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Dec 10 2014 03:53pm

Quote (haloneya @ Dec 10 2014 04:49pm)

How is asking critical question on the validation of *historical facts* silly?

You aren't asking critical questions... you are simply saying "what if these guys lied"? That can be applied to any history, anywhere.

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