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Dec 10 2014 03:12pm
simple questions that will spark months fun debate lol: Does a god exist? Which god? Is it even possible to know whether a god exists or not? What evidence do we have that supports either a god existing or not? Can we ponder the properties of a deity? (this is simply the god debate please, creation vs evolution will be next if this one isn't too boring)
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Dec 10 2014 03:16pm
...it states right in the forum guidelines that " does God exist " threads are frowned upon . This thread has been made by 1000 people before you on this forum and leads nowhere .
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Dec 10 2014 03:16pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Dec 10 2014 04:16pm)
...it states right in the forum guidelines that " does God exist " threads are frowned upon . This thread has been made by 1000 people before you on this forum and leads nowhere .


bah, passes the time well, sorry mods (creation vs evolution in the science channel then?)

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Dec 10 2014 03:17pm
When or whennot a god exists, we can never truely know, but without evidence for it, what reason is there to believe? The very thing has to be presumed
for us to even take it into consideration, I say we take it into consideration when there is scientific evidence for a possible *god*.
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Dec 10 2014 03:20pm
claims without evidence can be dismissed without evidence
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Dec 10 2014 03:26pm
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claims without evidence can be dismissed without evidence


is it proper to say R.I.P. here? (expecting paranormal bitchslap now)
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Dec 10 2014 03:31pm
I think the evidence points to Jesus of Nazareth existing, dying, and rising from the dead. He claimed to be God, and I think scripture makes clear that He was God. There's numerous other paths that you can go down to explain God.

The fact remains though... faith is a gift from God Himself. You can't will yourself into believing.
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Dec 10 2014 03:38pm
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I think the evidence points to Jesus of Nazareth existing, dying, and rising from the dead.  He claimed to be God, and I think scripture makes clear that He was God.  There's numerous other paths that you can go down to explain God.


in what way does scripture clarify? how can you verify that the scripture is full of anything but legends voted upon by a committee?

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The fact remains though... faith is a gift from God Himself.  You can't will yourself into believing.

then i am doomed, i want to have faith because apparently that is my only requirement but even you agree i cannot will myself to believe so i am then doomed from birth to hell, i wouldn't have made this thread if i thought it wasn't worth trying for, is god that big of a jerk really?
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Dec 10 2014 03:41pm
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in what way does scripture clarify? how can you verify that the scripture is full of anything but legends voted upon by a committee?


then i am doomed, i want to have faith because apparently that is my only requirement but even you agree i cannot will myself to believe so i am then doomed from birth to hell, i wouldn't have made this thread if i thought it wasn't worth trying for, is god that big of a jerk really?


...no , you don't . You can't even fool the human believers here so imagine how impossible it is to fool God .
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Dec 10 2014 03:42pm
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in what way does scripture clarify? how can you verify that the scripture is full of anything but legends voted upon by a committee?


then i am doomed, i want to have faith because apparently that is my only requirement but even you agree i cannot will myself to believe so i am then doomed from birth to hell, i wouldn't have made this thread if i thought it wasn't worth trying for, is god that big of a jerk really?


yes

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I think the evidence points to Jesus of Nazareth existing, dying, and rising from the dead.  He claimed to be God, and I think scripture makes clear that He was God.  There's numerous other paths that you can go down to explain God. 

The fact remains though... faith is a gift from God Himself.  You can't will yourself into believing.


Jesus may have lived, but evidence of the supernatural? Non, stories are not evidence.

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...no , you don't . You can't even fool the human believers here so imagine how impossible it is to fool God .


Your taking his Words out of content and totally missing the point.


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