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Dec 9 2014 11:14pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Dec 10 2014 07:43am)
Maybe a bit more than a century. I could be way off base.

If things go as I expected, genetically superior humans (those that are a product of genetic screening via IVF for traits like intelligence, attractiveness, etc.) are going to begin becoming the dominant "subspecies" and there will be massive selection pressure against "normal" humans. Traditional births will become the exception, rather than the norm.

r.i.p humanity
or as Heidegger put it - "only a God can save us"

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Dec 9 2014 11:15pm
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. This is a progress  for humanity. Soon everyone, for free hopefully, will be able to have screening to eliminate genetic defects and potential for disease in babies. Our future generations will be healthier and stronger before they are even born. This will help the healthcare system in the long run.


wait you meant "eliminate babies with genetic defects and potential for disease"
hmm maybe its your dyslexia xD
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Dec 9 2014 11:15pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 10 2014 12:10am)
yeah, it require 14 weeks old foetus yet (to detect triso 21) so it will be pretty hard to make it IN VITRO -_-

Height: 14 cm.
Weight: 110 g.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preimplantation_genetic_diagnosis

Am I missing something?
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Dec 9 2014 11:24pm
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yes, it's the same issue, weakier babies etc...
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Dec 9 2014 11:29pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 10 2014 12:24am)
yes, it's the same issue, weakier babies etc...


Your link required a login so I can't see whatever it is, but I know of no evidence that IVF babies have higher rates of disease than traditionally conceived babies, and if they do I expect we just need an improvement in genetic profiling procedure.
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Dec 9 2014 11:30pm
Quote (Caedus @ Dec 10 2014 01:12am)
There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. This is a progress  for humanity. Soon everyone, for free hopefully, will be able to have screening to eliminate genetic defects and potential for disease in babies. Our future generations will be healthier and stronger before they are even born. This will help the healthcare system in the long run.


This isn't the problem...it's sex selective abortions im talking about
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Dec 9 2014 11:30pm
If you believe in a woman's right to choose, it shouldn't matter what she chooses to do. If she wants to eat the fetus, who cares? It's irrelevant to the conversation if you're pro choice.
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Dec 9 2014 11:31pm
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If you believe in a woman's right to choose, it shouldn't matter what she chooses to do. If she wants to eat the fetus, who cares? It's irrelevant to the conversation if you're pro choice.


Things aren't black and white sir, at least not in reality
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Dec 9 2014 11:37pm
Quote (Voyaging @ 10 Dec 2014 06:29)
Your link required a login so I can't see whatever it is, but I know of no evidence that IVF babies have higher rates of disease than traditionally conceived babies, and if they do I expect we just need an improvement in genetic profiling procedure.


im not pushing it, you dont see evidences because you obviously didnt searched for it
sorry the link had limited amount of hits, this is professional website

ahem it's also related to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics so you can still implant something correct it will not grow that well, can give heart diseases, and can even be transmitted to next generations

http://www.swiss-paediatrics.org/sites/default/files/paediatrica/vol24/n1/pdf/27.pdf

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Dec 9 2014 11:55pm
Quote (bitg_pj @ Dec 9 2014 09:31pm)
Things aren't black and white sir, at least not in reality


I agree, but then again, I'm very pro life and I never believed in absolute ownership of our bodies.
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