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Dec 13 2014 03:57am
Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Dec 12 2014 06:40pm)
...dude, the movie is called predestination, look up the predestination paradox. It's not a plothole or a fallacy, it's the very foundation of the plot.


Predestination paradox explains the loop, it dosen't explain how babies are born from thin air to later give birth to themselves.
You can't just have the heavens open up and start dropping babies and then say "deal with it, it's a paradox"

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Dec 13 2014 12:04pm
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Predestination paradox explains the loop, it dosen't explain how babies are born from thin air to later give birth to themselves.
You can't just have the heavens open up and start dropping babies and then say "deal with it, it's a paradox"


Then it's clear you have no idea what a predestination paradox is. It's called a paradox for a reason. I suggest you actually do some research on the subject before shooting your mouth off again. The Ouroboros ring, the question "which came first, the chicken or the egg? with the answer being neither, the rooster"
There was a prime universe, this is the universe in which time travel developed on it's own. That universe was removed from existence as soon as the one guy at the head of the organization decided to pluck someone from the fabric of time and create the perfect agent. One whose exists depends on the very foundation of the system. One who would continue to perpetuate the system or lest face annihilation. This does not need to be explained in detail because it's also the foundation of a predestination paradox and it's even spoken about when the head agent when he talks about his creation.

The movie is nearly identical with it's predestination paradox as it is with the terminator franchise. IE, skynet eventually developed on it's own, and sent a terminator back to kill the resistance, but ends up providing the very seed of the existence (kyle reese fathering john connor) and the resistance end up providing the very seed of skynet (the chip and the arm from the first terminator) that first prime universe no longer exists, from then on each additional universe is created from that point when time travel first took place.

This post was edited by Arsenic_Touch on Dec 13 2014 12:13pm
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Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Dec 13 2014 07:04pm)
Then it's clear you have no idea what a predestination paradox is. It's called a paradox for a reason. I suggest you actually do some research on the subject before shooting your mouth off again. The Ouroboros ring, the question "which came first, the chicken or the egg? with the answer being neither, the rooster"
There was a prime universe, this is the universe in which time travel developed on it's own. That universe was removed from existence as soon as the one guy at the head of the organization decided to pluck someone from the fabric of time and create the perfect agent. One whose exists depends on the very foundation of the system. One who would continue to perpetuate the system or lest face annihilation. This does not need to be explained in detail because it's also the foundation of a predestination paradox and it's even spoken about when the head agent when he talks about his creation.

The movie is nearly identical with it's predestination paradox as it is with the terminator franchise. IE, skynet eventually developed on it's own, and sent a terminator back to kill the resistance, but ends up providing the very seed of the existence (kyle reese fathering john connor) and the resistance end up providing the very seed of skynet (the chip and the arm from the first terminator) that first prime universe no longer exists, from then on each additional universe is created from that point when time travel first took place.


Then it's just retarded, plain and simple.

Something came out of nothing and it dosen't have to make sense or be explained whatsoever because -Paradox-, it's a shit foundation for a film.


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