ever looked at polling on views of violence in Western nations?
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61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
did you check out the parts about "attacks on civilians in US" or "attacks on US civilians working in Islamic countries"?
i so want to see what polling about "attacks on Americans" done in Serbia or Russia would say and if people would be willing to associate said data with Orthodoxy.
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About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
now to quote what was asked
"al Gaeda goal: getting US to withdraw forces from Islamic countries." "Al Qaeda goal: get US to stop favoring Israel" "Al Qaeda goal: tet US to stop supporting Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan"
damn it Viv, you might just be sympathetic to Al Gaeda
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Pew Research (2010): 84% of Egyptian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam
86% of Jordanian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam
30% of Indonesian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam
76% of Pakistanis support death the penalty for leaving Islam
51% of Nigerian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam
seeing that around 75% of Egyptian Muslims supported religious freedom this might seem like a contradiction, but do make note of the difference between "major apostasy" and "minor apostasy" - the first being essentially becoming an apostate-terrorist (apostasy + high treason), although the major schools' medieval interpretations do agree with death penalty for apostasy. can't tell that much from the data, but why the part about freedom of religion was left out baffles me.
it should be noted that the last reigning seriously taken caliphs actually removed all punishment for all forms of apostasy.
now as for whether it is a problem with Islam i would be interested to know why the data regarding Turkey (89% opposed from a population of 75 million) and Indonesia (77% opposed out of a population of 205 million) was left out.
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ICM Poll: 58% of British Muslims believe insulting Islam should result in criminal prosecution
funny, in Finland it's illegal to insult Christianity (or Islam). Russia passed a similar law just a few years back, but remembering the extent of your russophobia that probs doesn't matter.
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As we can see, anti-western, pro-jihad, pro Shariah, anti-liberal sentiment is not (as Sam Harris tried to say) endorsed only by an extreme minority. Worldwide it probably even accounts for a majority.
Harris is unique in the way that his inanity isn't restricted to just one field, but that he seems to be able to be consistently wrong regardless of what he says.
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support to moderate Muslims who try to speak out against the injustices committed in the name of their faith.
well seeing that you actually just posted a whole wall of statistical manipulation i really don't see this happening, especially when the same brave sirs that are the first to blast out propaganda like this (it really is like classical propaganda) are often also the first ones to tell the average Muslim about how the said Muslims aren't in fact real Muslims.