Quote (Skinned @ Nov 15 2014 12:49am)

Oh, I agree, it is one area Aristotle fell incredibly short in.  But his concept of justice and distributive and not retributive has been useful to legal philosophy as a whole though.

And yeah, I agree, impossible to judge merit.



Marx was a very smart and complicated guy, and his philosophy changed throughout his life, from having a humanistic tone to having more reductionist tones later on.

And everybody agrees with Marx about something, most people just have no idea how far his thoughts and works have shaped modernity.

Along with Darwin and Freud, Marx is one of the founders of modern thought.

Quote (nobrow @ Nov 15 2014 12:57am)

"Socialism desires to support everyone equally including the parasites." If your university is so grand you should understand this isn't a flaw. It's in our best interest to establish a minimum standard of living. Furthermore the amount of free riders is fairly small.
Most people enjoy working, it gives you a sense of meaning and purpose.

Quote (PixileDust @ Nov 15 2014 01:06am)

When someone is not working, it is doubly inefficient. First, they offer nothing, so the net contribution of their existence is instantly zero.

Secondly, they take from those that contribute, so their net contribution becomes negative, thereby negating someone else who does contribute. This deadweight loss is unacceptable.

According to usdebtclock.org, the % of the population not in the labor force is steadily rising since 2000. Only 1/3 of the population contributes in the form of income tax, so free riders are roughly 2/3 of the us population.

Quote (nobrow @ Nov 15 2014 01:09am)

How did you ever manage to get into a university? The retired paid their dues, they are included in your 2/3rds those who don't make enough beyond the deduction for FIC don't pay income taxes but pay social security. Go play with Kramer and fanticise over Romney's bulge.

Quote (PixileDust @ Nov 15 2014 01:11am)

They paid their dues by what standard? They worked only to help themselves, and they procreated so that their children would be slave labor to facilitate their existence.

Quote (nobrow @ Nov 15 2014 01:14am)

I'm done with you in the same way I was done with ruasiabank when he denied all mental disorders and claimed to be function in his own way. You went full retard in this thread.

Quote (PixileDust @ Nov 15 2014 03:15am)

You really think 2/3 of the population not paying taxes is acceptable?

Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 15 2014 01:19am)

No its not acceptable to me. Lets go for 3/3 

Quote (PixileDust @ Nov 15 2014 01:24am)

The sad thing is Liberals say everyone should pay their fair share.

What they really mean is the poor should steal money from the working class and give it to themselves.

Plus people over 65 are only 14% of the us population, people under 15 are 20%. The other 32% (1/3) are under 65 and older than 15 (working age) and not paying taxes.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Nov 15 2014 01:27am)

Not paying income tax maybe, but paying state, sales, property and other forms of taxes.  Its not that cut and dry.