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Nov 15 2014 01:49pm
Quote (diablo8567 @ Nov 15 2014 07:49am)
this guys saying vita is better then ms r serious braindramaged

u dont need any vita on lightning dh (the only  build they r needed for) also 120dex is better then a useless not needed stat

0/10 cause u ruined them

e: he wouldnt gave up 350 stats, cause vita is a wasted stat so he gave up 120 stats by rolling of ms


He still should have rolled off MS; Vita is the lesser of the two evils and no one has any reason to rely on gear for MS ever in the long run.

These Lacuni's are not ruined at all.
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Nov 15 2014 01:54pm
Quote (diablo8567 @ Nov 15 2014 08:49am)
this guys saying vita is better then ms r serious braindramaged

u dont need any vita on lightning dh (the only  build they r needed for) also 120dex is better then a useless not needed stat

0/10 cause u ruined them

e: he wouldnt gave up 350 stats, cause vita is a wasted stat so he gave up 120 stats by rolling of ms


No, he picked the right choice taking off MS. At higher Paragon levels, MS on gear is ALWAYS dead weight.
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Nov 15 2014 01:57pm
You would've ruined them if you did keep on the MS. Pretty much every high GRift DH using Lacunis rolls MS off anyway; you're did it right.
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Nov 15 2014 02:16pm
Lightning DH = 99% solo high level (40+) GRs.
Lightning DH = permanent Smoke Screen = invulnerable (nearly... some stuff still can hit & 1shot you)
VIT on lightning items = mostly useless, unless you play it for fun in t6.

Actual loss isn't that big, as you get 10% from ferret companion & 10-12% from boots (only dex/%ele arrow required).
Now you guys can proceed to kill each other. Have a nice evening.



[e] Still, nice Lacuni, sir. :v

This post was edited by agryxoxo on Nov 15 2014 02:38pm
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Nov 16 2014 11:30am
Quote (ArchPwnology @ 15 Nov 2014 20:54)
No, he picked the right choice taking off MS. At higher Paragon levels, MS on gear is ALWAYS dead weight.


Quote (SasorizaKR @ 15 Nov 2014 20:49)
He still should have rolled off MS; Vita is the lesser of the two evils and no one has any reason to rely on gear for MS ever in the long run.

These Lacuni's are not ruined at all.


u guys r braindamaged

why is a useless vita stat better then 120 mainstat?
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Nov 16 2014 01:32pm
Quote (diablo8567 @ Nov 16 2014 10:30am)
u guys r braindamaged

why is a useless vita stat better then 120 mainstat?


Like you said, it's a Lightning DH item. Use your brain.
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Nov 16 2014 02:12pm
Quote (diablo8567 @ Nov 16 2014 10:30am)
u guys r braindamaged

why is a useless vita stat better then 120 mainstat?


Let's put it another way. MS cap is 25%. If you're a Lightning DH, you're definitely using Marauders, which means you naturally have:

10 MS from Ferret
12 MS from Marauder Boots (Ideal is Dex/Res or Armor/Ele%/MS)

22/25 MS, finish off the rest with Paragon. That's 6 Paragon points, or 30 Dex you "miss." You're not missing out on anywhere near 120 Dex.

It's basically a battle between 4xx Vit or putting 30 more Dex into Paragon. Losing 30 Dex is not that big of a deal considering something as large as 400 Vit. In HC, you need this VIT, period. In SC, you can get 1-shotted in 4x+ GRifts, but NOT by everything. 400 Vit can make the difference between getting 1-shot or 2-shot by a number of things if you ever were to get a momentary lapse of Smoke Screen. And keep in mind, things that end up being invulnerable (such as a perfectly played perma Smoke Screen) get nerfed sooner or later.

With that in mind, sacrificing 30 Dex in the grand scheme of things is a better choice: relatively more nerf-proof and 4xx Vit is enough to make a difference between a 1-shot and 2-shot death in exchange for a very, very little damage decrease.
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Nov 16 2014 02:24pm
Quote (diablo8567 @ Nov 16 2014 09:30am)
u guys r braindamaged

why is a useless vita stat better then 120 mainstat?


Like you said, it's best used on a Lightning DH, which means he already has the Ferret + Marauder boots on.

400 Vit has better utility than 30 Dex boost (it's not 120 Dex, it's only 30 Dex because of the M6 set).

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With that in mind, sacrificing 30 Dex in the grand scheme of things is a better choice: relatively more nerf-proof and 4xx Vit is enough to make a difference between a 1-shot and 2-shot death in exchange for a very, very little damage decrease.


That. 30 Dex is very, very small in terms of damage when the 4xx Vit can prevent a number of things from being a one-hit kill, especially if you've already minimized Vit on your other gear. Plus, everyone knows Blizzard likes to sooner-or-later nerf builds that can make death a rarity.
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Nov 16 2014 03:03pm
I have a similar pair though not as good and I chose to remove the MS as well. As others are saying, depending your boots, it's literally a 30 dex loss, which is not a noticeable amount at all. Also, there are some dots that's I've escaped and I've never finished a grift with .01 seconds to go because that's all 30 dex is going to save you
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Nov 17 2014 09:59pm
Come 2.1.2, unless the change is canceled, keeping Vita on these Lacunis is now the hands down better choice because perma Smoke Screen will no longer be possible.

This post was edited by ArchPwnology on Nov 17 2014 10:00pm
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