Gems for stampede:
1-Trapped
2-Powerful
3-Pain Enchancer solo/Efficacious group

Gems for condemn:
1-Miranae
2-Powerful/trapped/wreath for speed (depends on T6 or gold farm)
3-efficacious for group/Trapped (again just depends what i need at the time, solo group etc)
I also use strongarms for condemn ina group with vaccuum, for solo i use Warzechian Armguards for the speed (approx3-5min solo t6)

Efficacious is by far the better choice for a good group, i mainly only run with p600s -seasons- ( just because thats what most of my friends are) so 40% group dmg from me alone + all of their efficacious too beats enhancer hands down:) and without pain enhancer i dont need wrath. takes like 1-3s to kill an champions a couple more for rares even solo in 4p

In a good group i usually hit for around 150-160mil stampede crits per horse with harri, around 110 without it and about 300-450mil with condemn but the condemn builds is no where near complete or even half way, its mainly scraps i had all with medium rolls besides the phalanx gear that i had on

I mainly made this toon (<3weeks ago) to have a break from my WD while on seasons because my WD was literally doing GR/trials only and generating 48-49 keys for hours is very very boring.

Havent tried condemn build in a GR solo yet, i might give it a go but i know for sure it cannot beat stampede at higher levels, i play with 3/10 top 10 saders and they all agree, if they cant do it, i certainly cant.

I really only use the condemn for group t6 and end of the day, blood shards > anything, killing trash is a waste of time (even if u want gold, go urn ruins of corvus and get 10x what u would in a t6 without any effort). rather have 125ish shards every 3mins than spend 10mins farming shitty elites/trash as well

Thanks for your feedback

EDIT: these numbers and builds are based on everyone being around the same level and geared, i really dont have any newbie friends, we've all been playing since day 1 so everyone i play with melts t6 in <5mins solo anyway and most have cleared 40+ solo and 47+ group

This post was edited by Napalm1473 on Oct 24 2014 04:28pm

tho 600 para alone puts you into the "top X" in seasons

i maybe am more noob than you (para~530) but i don't think sader has any place in teams GRs... maybe the best of the best can do some work, but an average team of WD+monk+DH+DH will probably go further :[

in solo GRs a 38 is like top 300... in DH that prob isnt even leaderboard

just not balanced right now, makes me sad :[

e/ nice bop

This post was edited by yamamotocannon on Oct 24 2014 04:29pm

we use sader wd 2dh for 45-50 so much better than a monk

gz on 38 solo

sader brings: 20% crit, 100% crit damage, 20% damage perma + Strongarm proc (30%) same amount of moveability on mobs with vaccuum. these bonuses work out muhc muhc better than flat dmg bonuses from monks

you'll find if u look at the boards, there are 2 monks in the top 20 for 4p barbs and saders are above monk

This post was edited by Napalm1473 on Oct 24 2014 09:06pm

and 15% attack speed and perma blind on trash and elites with DR

decent one! 10 out of 10!

mine
8,5/10 on yours tho.

10!

rerolled/10 dont give 2 shits about rerolled, this is trophy, not reroll room

Someone's mad

far from. as ive stated many, many times before, this is trophy room, nto reroll room. anyone can reroll soemthign to make it good, what makes it a trophy is how its rolled by ITSELF. posting a rerolled item is meaningless. sure it may be an amazing item still, but its not a trophy if its rerolled.