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Oct 13 2014 04:10pm
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 13 2014 05:59pm)
What excuses?  Cops occasionally fuck up and they usually face severe consequences.  It's not something we have to bring up twice a day.


this is not a mistake....you don't accidentally break into someones house and beat and taze them for non physically resisting your unlawful action
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Oct 13 2014 04:11pm
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 13 2014 04:59pm)
What excuses?  Cops occasionally fuck up and they usually face severe consequences.  It's not something we have to bring up twice a day.


Severe? No, they do not. Not even close.
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Oct 13 2014 04:12pm
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You missed the part where ...


The Bishops' complaint against the officers took three years to resolve. Gilbert was eventually disciplined by the Nova Scotia Police Review Board in early 2012.
"This was not a mob scene outside a bar, and it is difficult to comprehend how things went wrong so quickly," the board said.
"This incident is serious. It involves both an unlawful entry into a home and an excessive use of force, including the firing of a Taser. It has also had serious consequences for Mr. Bishop and his family."
The board suspended Gilbert for two weeks, put him under temporary supervision and recommended anger management. He was never criminally charged, though, and still has his job.


Canadian cops have more accountability. So what. The sob story you posted from the plaintiffs paints the situation as positively as it can for them and as negatively for the police. Police sometimes use too much force, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't have used force at all. A cop that shoots a drunk who just punched an officer used too much force, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't have used force. This is a case of disproportionate force in a case that almost certainly warranted it. When you're engaging in a loud party early in the morning, and the cops knock on your door for the third time, answer the fucking door and don't act hostile to the police when they enforce the noise violation.

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Oct 13 2014 04:14pm
Quote (bitg_pj @ Oct 13 2014 05:10pm)
this is not a mistake....you don't accidentally break into someones house and beat and taze them for non physically resisting your unlawful action


I'm not wasting my time reading the story, and then Googling to get the accurate story. Police fuck up occasionally, this may or may not be one of those situations, and life goes on.

We Americans have 316 million people in our country. There's always situations that merit ethical investigations, and that's why normal cops hate internal affairs. There is no massive systemic corruption.
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Oct 13 2014 04:16pm
Quote (Santara @ Oct 13 2014 05:11pm)
Severe? No, they do not. Not even close.


I'll concede that point, severe was the wrong word to use. I imagine if I was part of a police department, I would want the benefit of the doubt, given the situations PO's face on a daily basis. It's not easy to get away with serious fuck ups anymore.

BTW, this is coming from a guy that generally does not like cops. They've only been a nuisance in my life.

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Oct 13 2014 04:20pm
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Canadian cops have more accountability. So what. The sob story you posted from the plaintiffs paints the situation as positively as it can for them and as negatively for the police. Police sometimes use too much force, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't have used force at all. A cop that shoots a drunk who just punched an officer used too much force, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't have used force. This is a case of disproportionate force in a case that almost certainly warranted it. When you're engaging in a loud party early in the morning, and the cops knock on your door for the third time, answer the fucking door and don't act hostile to the police when they enforce the noise violation.


There is no law that allows police officers to break into your house over a noise complaint last time I checked ....

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Oct 13 2014 04:33pm
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 13 2014 04:59pm)
What excuses?  Cops occasionally fuck up and they usually face severe consequences.  It's not something we have to bring up twice a day.


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Oct 13 2014 04:35pm
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You got inb4d, n00b.
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Oct 13 2014 04:50pm
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There is no law that allows police officers to break into your house over a noise complaint last time I checked ....


Break in? Police are allowed to enter under probable cause. This was the third time they were called to the house. They had legal reason to enter to shut the party down. They knocked on the door first. It's the homeowners fault for refusing to acknowledge them.
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Oct 13 2014 04:52pm
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Break in? Police are allowed to enter under probable cause. This was the third time they were called to the house. They had legal reason to enter to shut the party down. They knocked on the door first. It's the homeowners fault for refusing to acknowledge them.


you know the cops got a slap on the wrist right? i mean it is a slap on the wrist but symbolically it means they were found to be in the wrong
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