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Sep 22 2014 07:40pm
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/09/22/u-s-military-begins-military-campaign-against-islamic-state-targets-in-syria-report/

US and allies are getting involved in another war with now real plan or end game strategy.
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Sep 22 2014 07:46pm
this war is worth fighting though

unlike that last one with saddam

if you'd left saddam alone probably wouldn't have to fight this one

This post was edited by duffman316 on Sep 22 2014 07:47pm
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Sep 22 2014 07:51pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Sep 22 2014 08:46pm)
this war is worth fighting though

unlike that last one with saddam

if you'd left saddam alone probably wouldn't have to fight this one


The problem with the idea of leaving Saddam alone is that Western powers have intentionally fucked up the Middle East by trying to prevent a Caliphate like the Ottoman Empire. Do they condone petty dictators over self determination? Unfortunately yes.
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Sep 22 2014 07:52pm
ISIS wants this fight Santara, and they've got to go.

Regardless of what has led up to now, this is where we are at.

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Sep 22 2014 07:55pm
...the call to arms is mandatory and the end game needs to be the demise of ISIS , and the rise of non-radical Islam in the entire area . Generational wars take generations to conclude .
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Sep 22 2014 07:59pm
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ISIS wants this fight Santara, and they've got to go.

Regardless of what has led up to now, this is where we are at.


Oh, so because they WANT this fight, even though we aren't actually going to accomplish anything that addresses the long term, go fight anyways?
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Sep 22 2014 08:00pm
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Oh, so because they WANT this fight, even though we aren't actually going to accomplish anything that addresses the long term, go fight anyways?


Kill ISIS, knock down Assad, most problems in region are addressed.
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Sep 22 2014 08:14pm
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Oh, so because they WANT this fight, even though we aren't actually going to accomplish anything that addresses the long term, go fight anyways?



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Sep 22 2014 08:15pm
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Kill ISIS, knock down Assad, most problems in region are addressed.


We can kill some leadership types and a bunch of zealots, sure. More will come, especially in the power vacuum sure to follow in Syria. I hear we have al Quada "on the ropes." What did that get us? ISIS.
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Sep 22 2014 09:03pm
Quote (Santara @ Sep 22 2014 06:15pm)
We can kill some leadership types and a bunch of zealots, sure. More will come, especially in the power vacuum sure to follow in Syria. I hear we have al Quada "on the ropes." What did that get us? ISIS.


ISIS was not a problem until we stopped doing our job. This is something we will have to do for generations.

What would you have us do realistically?
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