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Sep 21 2014 09:56pm
Quote (Tylr @ Sep 21 2014 10:24pm)
You're both trying to downplay violence and oppression influenced by atheism, if anything here is complete random bullshit, I'd say that would be it....


explain how not believing in thor leads one to violence
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Sep 21 2014 10:07pm
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explain how not believing in thor leads one to violence




What's the point man?
You are completely unwilling to give any attempt to analyze or understand opposing statements in an honestly curious light before you have already made up your mind. You have absolutely no wish to broaden your horizons.

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http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140628103330/criminal-case-grimsborough/images/thumb/c/c1/Mega_Facepalm.png/640px-Mega_Facepalm.png

What's the point man?
You are completely unwilling to give any attempt to analyze or understand opposing statements in an honestly curious light before you have already made up your mind.  You have absolutely no wish to broaden your horizons.


the only thing facepalm worthy in this entire thread is what i bolded in your previous post

though i tried to be nice about it and walk you through your own nonsense hoping you'd figure it out on your own -_-

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Sep 21 2014 10:37pm
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the only thing facepalm worthy in this entire thread is what i bolded in your previous statement

though i tried to be nice about it and walk you through your own nonsense hoping you'd figure it out on your own -_-


It's really not that hard to grasp man...

I was waiting for either you, viv, or 2sexy to respond like you did.
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Sep 21 2014 10:49pm
Quote (Tylr @ Sep 21 2014 11:37pm)
It's really not that hard to grasp man...

I was waiting for either you, viv, or 2sexy to respond like you did.


mao, stalin, hitler, blah blah blah

that'd be my guess

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Sep 21 2014 11:04pm
Quote (Tylr @ Sep 22 2014 12:37am)
It's really not that hard to grasp man...

I was waiting for either you, viv, or 2sexy to respond like you did.


well if you insist...


Quote (Tylr @ Sep 21 2014 11:24pm)
You're both trying to downplay violence and oppression influenced by atheism, if anything here is complete random bullshit, I'd say that would be it....


Can you start by enumerate the locations in the world where atheism is actually a source of violence and oppression ?

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Sep 21 2014 11:42pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Sep 22 2014 12:49am)
mao, stalin, hitler, blah blah blah

that'd be my guess


Sure why not?
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Sep 22 2014 12:02am
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Sure why not?


for one you'd be dead wrong by definition alone (it's nothing more than the lack of a belief) though you people don't seem to let facts get in the way of poorly thought out counter arguments to counter the facts that the name of god/religion has been literally invoked as part of the justification for some of the greatest atrocities in history

also i admire how you don't let the fact that hitler was a christian get in the way of claiming he was an atheist

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Quote (duffman316 @ Sep 22 2014 02:02am)
for one you'd be dead wrong by definition alone (it's nothing more than the lack of a belief) though you people don't seem to let facts get in the way of poorly thought out counter arguments to counter the facts that the name of god/religion has been literally invoked as part of the justification for some of the greatest atrocities in history

also i admire how you don't let the fact that hitler was a christian get in the way of claiming he was an atheist


Not going to continue on with your first point


@bolded
I know you don't believe that.


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Sep 22 2014 12:48pm
Quote (Tylr @ 22 Sep 2014 06:16)
Not going to continue on with your first point


@bolded
I know you don't believe that.


Hitler was not a typical christian but he did have a catholic upbringing and was a deist himself. He was most certainly not an atheist. The god he believed in was the Christian god and he used the bible to justify the persecution of the jews.
All the others simply fought against the hold that religion had over their cultures. As is the moral duty of any rational person. They simply had enough power to do something serious about it.

There is a big difference between the persecution of religion and the tearing down of that which has ruled over you and when that power is an idea that is as engrained into our society as religion is then it will take drastic measures to cut it out. All of them failed. So what we learn from this is not that their methods were too drastic but that they were not drastic enough. I say again - it is our moral duty to learn from these failures and to try different and more drastic methods in our mission to cut the cancer of religion out of humanity.
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