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Quote (Voyaging @ 14 Sep 2014 04:36)
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omg they're both rampaging unchecked
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Sep 13 2014 08:26pm
United States is an oligarchy.
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Sep 13 2014 08:45pm
No, it is not all that. I think a meritocracy of some sort with checks and balances would be the best form of government. The world is becoming too complicated and specialized for a democratic republic to work properly.
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Sep 13 2014 08:48pm
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Sep 13 2014 09:04pm
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No, it is not all that. I think a meritocracy of some sort with checks and balances would be the best form of government. The world is becoming too complicated and specialized for a democratic republic to work properly.


what sort of checks and balances?
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Sep 13 2014 09:18pm
Quote (FrozenWater @ Sep 13 2014 07:04pm)
what sort of checks and balances?


I think having a bill of rights is a great idea. I'd abolish elections for legislators though. I'd like to have the President dictate "general" policy to the legislators and for the people to elect the president. I'd keep the judicial system as is most likely. I'd also establish an "auditing" branch that ensured there wasn't corruption within government, made sure things ran efficiently, etc.
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Sep 13 2014 09:33pm
Quote (thundercock @ 13 Sep 2014 22:18)
I think having a bill of rights is a great idea. I'd abolish elections for legislators though. I'd like to have the President dictate "general" policy to the legislators and for the people to elect the president. I'd keep the judicial system as is most likely. I'd also establish an "auditing" branch that ensured there wasn't corruption within government, made sure things ran efficiently, etc.


So we need a House of Lords?

Quote (Skinned @ 13 Sep 2014 21:26)
United States is an oligarchy.


What do you mean? you can vote for any of these two rich, protestant, white males.
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Sep 13 2014 10:22pm
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I don't support Democracy or think it's a good form of government. Now I'm not a bad person because of that but it's the conclusion I came to after research and personal experience.

A vote by majority implies quantity over quality, masses over individuals, numbers over brains, and so on.

Talent, genius, and personality play no part but sheer numbers.

The people voted for George W Bush and so thats who was president then.

The people voted for Obama and now he is president.

Yet both are equally bad and did nothing to serve the interests of the people.

There also is little responsibility in a Democracy. If something goes wrong for Obama he just blames Republicans. If something goes bad for Bush he just blamed Democrats, etc.

In a wolf pack the leader is the wolf that possesses the most strength and endurance. If he messes up the rest can kill him and be replaced by a better one.

Basically we need a government where the one leader has the power to do anything but he takes full responsibility for his decisions.


I don't see many wolves arounds
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Sep 13 2014 11:03pm
Quote (thundercock @ Sep 13 2014 11:18pm)
I think having a bill of rights is a great idea. I'd abolish elections for legislators though. I'd like to have the President dictate "general" policy to the legislators and for the people to elect the president. I'd keep the judicial system as is most likely. I'd also establish an "auditing" branch that ensured there wasn't corruption within government, made sure things ran efficiently, etc.


If you're going to remove elections for legislators you have to remove elections for the judicial positions that elected. If you're going to make America a meritocracy the judiciary needs to be revamped.

This post was edited by Caedus on Sep 13 2014 11:03pm
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Sep 13 2014 11:45pm
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If you're going to remove elections for legislators you have to remove elections for the judicial positions that elected. If you're going to make America a meritocracy the judiciary needs to be revamped.


Agreed.
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So we need a House of Lords?



What do you mean? you can vote for any of these two rich, protestant, white males.


Pretty much.
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