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Sep 12 2014 08:31am
Quote (Mastersam93 @ Sep 12 2014 07:51am)
Yeah, a company is guilty of it's employee's actions by association, like it or not.


So, this proposal would legally dissociate personal opinions with a company's, though not socially.

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Sep 12 2014 09:21am
you can't reasonably distinguish 2a from 2b
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Sep 12 2014 09:29am
Would this Bill work for government whistleblowers too?
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Sep 12 2014 10:03am
Its not balanced imo. The worker would hold all assets and the company would hold all liability.

As a corp owner, imagine all the shitty people out there that would abuse the laws to their own ends, to point of sabotage even.

If you're smart you can still do almost whatever expression you want to do now, anonymously if particularly explicit.

I agree with 1, 3, and 4 for sure.
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Sep 12 2014 10:06am
Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ Sep 12 2014 12:18pm)
I think America has a duty to lead the fight in protection of the working class by passing a law..

we've already got such laws, mainly because the socialists and the commies didn't like the idea of someone losing a job for their union activities or being a commie / a socialist
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Sep 12 2014 02:26pm
Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ Sep 12 2014 05:18am)
The digital society has done much for the exchange of ideas. Whereas people once were closed and secluded in their ideology, the internet has allowed individuals to explore political and social notions to a much greater extent in a much larger forum. This, of course, comes with minor risks, such as a growing sentiment of intolerance, but I think we can all agree that the exchange of ideas is a perfectly health and necessary aspect of democratic society.

With that said, people have suffered monetary hardship for expressing themselves on the internet (or even in private to be leaked to the internet without their consent), and in some nations people have been imprisoned for expressing "hateful" opinions.

I think America has a duty to lead the fight in protection of the working class by passing a law. This law would protect every individual from overreaching government and large corporations. Keep in mind I have no experience in writing laws, this is just a general idea.

Freedom of Opinion Act

1. Government officials may not make a statement about a citizen's opinion. It is inappropriate for government officials to state opinions on these matters when speaking as a representative of the United States. (For instance, the American Government would not be allowed to denounce videos that allegedly incite attacks on US Embassies)
1.a. Government officials may make statement about the opinions of citizens when not speaking as a representative of the United States government. (So, the President can denounce the video on a Talk Show, but cannot at a White House Press Conference)

2. Business institutions may not terminate an employment contract solely based on incidences out of work that involve the expression of opinion. (For instance, employers wouldn't be able to fire you for liking a white nationalist group on Facebook, saying hateful things on the internet or something of that nature)
2.a. A business may terminate an employment contract if it can adequately demonstrate excessive or long lasting monetary damages due to the speech. (So, if a business loses excessive patronage and revenue after the incident, the employee may be fired after the business demonstrates that they suffered damages as a result)

3. Employment contracts may not contain language aimed at restricting an employee's speech outside of the workplace. (Employment conditions that forbid you from expressing your opinion are anti-democratic)
3.a. Employment contracts may contain language aimed at restringing an employee's speech in the workplace. (This is pretty self explanatory, you're not a democratic actor while at work, but an employee)

4. Employers may not terminate an employment contract based on alleged criminal behavior. (If a man is seen beating his wife, he may not be fired until...)
4.a. Employers may terminate an employment contract if an individual is found guilty of aggressive criminal behavior or extended arrest scenarios. (Domestic abuse, dog fighting, rape, murder, DUI resulting in injury or death of another person)

I think such a law would be effective in combating a bullying technique practiced by individuals of all political leanings, targeting advertisers and corporations in order to have speech you disagree with restricted. While this wouldn't remove all consequences from speech, it would afford workers some protection. So teachers wouldn't get fired for posting beach side bikini pictures on their private Facebook pages, team owners wouldn't have pressure to resign/sell placed on them after expressing unpopular opinions in non-business scenarios, and media personalities wouldn't risk losing their jobs for expressing harsh opinions.

In summation, the Market is a dehumanizing institution, and we as Americans have a duty to protect freedom of speech and opinion before corporate interests.


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Sep 12 2014 05:53pm
Quote (killg0re @ Sep 12 2014 06:31am)
So, this proposal would legally dissociate personal opinions with a company's, though not socially.


The law would demonstrate that employers are not responsible for speech outside of work.

Also, everyone seems to miss the part where employers can still fire, they just need to prove loses.

Also, not liking an employee personally is inappropriate grounds for termination and opens the door to employer discrimination.
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Sep 12 2014 05:54pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Sep 12 2014 05:13am)
Thats sounds delicious. afk making one now.

the proposed FOOA is a beyond terrible act tho, with massive moral hazards and  horrible economic and social consequences.


Can you for once elaborate on your ideas, or is Kamahl right about you?
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Sep 12 2014 05:55pm
How many employees fired for speech were members of a strong union?
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Sep 12 2014 06:00pm
Quote (Skinned @ Sep 12 2014 03:55pm)
How many employees fired for speech were members of a strong union?


Not enough. Which is why I always support union membership and generally side with union interests.
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