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Sep 10 2014 11:54am
Okay, everybody just consider something for a second, take all the bullshit out of the context when you consider this and simply evaluate the action.

The usage of nuclear weapons during World War II.

We are a supposedly "Christian nation", yes? If Christianity cannot prevent someone from dropping a God damned nuclear bomb on hundreds of thousands of people I propose it is 100% worthless. Christianity is bullshit, I think we can all agree with that, there's nothing holy about the Bible, there's likely no God, yadda yadda yadda, therefore the only value in religion is how it influences people, ideally in a positive manner; be it public or private. And yet, it failed to prevent perhaps the single most devastating action humans have been able to commit to this point.

Anyone who believes they are Christian and somehow supports the nuclear bombs' usage ask yourself this -- under any circumstances, for any reason, period, would Jesus Christ have used the nuclear bomb?

Either you answer no, and remain in sync with your beliefs, or yes, and you acknowledge the shortcoming of the thought and its incompatibility with the real world.

We need a new religion and it starts in this thread.

First commandment: no nukes.
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Sep 10 2014 11:58am
If Che had had access to nukes he would have used them.
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Sep 10 2014 12:00pm
Quote (Scaly @ Sep 10 2014 05:58pm)
If Che had had access to nukes he would have used them.


Debatable, but probably likely.

I'd like to point out that I wouldn't exactly consider Che the most moral human who ever lived.


EDIT -- If I had a nuke I'd use it on you.


This post was edited by Kamahl16 on Sep 10 2014 12:01pm
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Sep 10 2014 12:08pm
Quote (Kamahl16 @ Sep 10 2014 01:54pm)
therefore the only value in religion is how it influences people, ideally in a positive manner;


Strongly disagree, religion is extremely valuable on a personal, psychological, spiritual level for those with faith, which is perhaps even more important than how it affects their behavior.

Also this isn't a Christian nation, separation of church and state is a very important concept in this country, and the WW2 bombings were warranted.

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Sep 10 2014 12:27pm
I can remember from this fictional story that tried to put the point across that the scientists should have kept the nuclear bomb hidden from the politicians. Of course, that wasn't a valid strategy at the time (arms race and all), but it is imo a good strategy for any scientist who creates something that can be used in such horrific ways.

From my point of view the atomic bombs might not have been necessary, but not acting against Japan would have resulted in more deaths. Plus it wasn't like other cities weren't pretty much destroyed in similar ways (Dresden, Rotterdam, Hamburg, Tokyo, etc), just with more bombs.

I don't have any clue what JC would think of nukes, they weren't around when he was alive.
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Sep 10 2014 12:30pm
a world without religion would be alot better. so many wars caused from religious differences not even funny

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Sep 10 2014 12:38pm
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a world without religion would be alot better. so many wars caused from religious differences not even funny


How many wars were prevented because of religion?
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Sep 10 2014 12:48pm
Quote (OFFENSE @ Sep 10 2014 01:30pm)
a world without religion would be alot better. so many wars caused from religious differences not even funny


not true, i can name several people with bombs strapped to their chest screaming "darwin is great!" before they blow themselves up in a church

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How many wars were prevented because of religion?


and i can name even more people who let you off the hook if you accept that there is no god but darwin and richard dawkins is his prophet
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Sep 10 2014 12:56pm
you can join my religion called Pionergonism

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Sep 10 2014 01:00pm
My religion is Football. I worship the almighty god Vince Lombardi. I tread the waters with my fellow of Lombardi's message. And we are all searching for the Super Bowl and attain the trophy of Vince Lombardi which gives you everlasting life/glory.

This post was edited by sir_lance_bb on Sep 10 2014 01:01pm
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