Stupid fuck, your " basic, agreed-upon fact" isn't basic, nor agreed upon. But keep lying!

Yes, it is. Obama deports illegal immigrants at a faster rate than any of his predecessors. Anyone who consults the ICE data recognizes that. And the fact that he has removed so many illegal immigrants from the country is agreed upon, as evidenced by the linked commentary earlier that's a widely-held belief on both sides of the political spectrum. The only people who amusingly refuse to agree with simple data are the people who are clinging to a delusion because that, and not reality, is more comfortable to them.

you were saying?

Faster rate is irrelevant. Your feelings about Republicans are irrelevant. Getting pissy because someone didnt praise Obama is irrelevant.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Aug 12 2014 01:36pm

Uh, no, it's not irrelevant. Given the reality of how deportation data is collected and relayed to the public, the rate of deportation remains the single most-important data point in making the determinations that are being offered and challenged in this thread. People can't just ignore that data because it doesn't comport with their delusions, as they so often attempt. And, no, the accurate characterization of what the Republican party has done on the issue of long-term illegal immigration (nothing) is also not irrelevant if the imbecile stupidly claims that Obama himself hasn't done anything on the issue when he very obviously has. If someone is stupid enough to make such a stupid comment, then they will be properly smashed with the reminder that the person who they're laughably attempting to criticize has done something, contrary to their baseless claim.

No one's "gotten pissy" that someone didn't praise Obama, either. I've only pointed out, correctly, that if the imbecile is upset over the fact that the data smashed his delusion he should take it up with Bush, and not Obama. I know he doesn't like them (or doesn't know them), but facts matter.

Edit: There's also another very important reason that the deportation rate has to be adhered to. I previously thought that it would go without saying, but then I remembered who I'm talking to. Obama's presidency is incomplete, and there obviously has to be some discretion used when comparing his incomplete presidency to the completed presidencies of his predecessors. If we're attempting to make fair comparisons then we have to treat Obama's body of work as an estimated 8-year hypothetical sample since he has only served for 5 and a half years. The fact that Obama is nearing the record, or has already surpassed it, in 5 and a half years as compared to what his predecessors accomplished in 8 years goes a long way in settling the matter anyway.

This post was edited by Pollster on Aug 12 2014 01:47pm

No, it isn't. Obama keeps out large numbers, since large numbers are surging to the border. The ones that are already here? They're pretty safe. You can scream and cry until you're blue in the face (to match your glasses), but calling border apprehensions deportations is like calling purple, blue. Close, but no cigar. I award you no points, delusion boy. Find a new spin. Everyone under the sun knows Obama is trying to keep as many illegals already in the country here. But hey, don't take my word for it, take Jeff Session's footnoted paper on it: http://www.sessions.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/9b44654f-04ed-4de5-8326-8f0caff2a868/critical-alert---dhs-enforcement-data.pdf

Highly unlikely

They don't even need their votes! With the non-producers making up almost half the population they MUST vote demoncratic in order to keep their lifestyle. The age of personal responsibility is over.