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Aug 7 2014 04:18am
Quote (Yakir @ 7 Aug 2014 11:07)
Ofc I can make Hamas responsible for Israel action , are you kidding me?
Hamas is responsible for bringing this destrucation and death upon their own citizens , using their homes , schools , hospitals as weapons storage and lanuch sites .
So , Germany citizens who died because of the bombing , is the Allies fault or Nazi Germany fault ?


It's a pretty simple concept, the person who pulled the trigger is responsible. Hamas isn't to blame when Israel decides to kill innocent civilians.
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Aug 7 2014 04:21am
Israel is not responsible for Hamas using his own citizens as human shields , Hamas is the one who responsible for all those deaths .
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Aug 7 2014 04:22am
Quote (Yakir @ 7 Aug 2014 11:21)
Israel is not responsible for Hamas using his own citizens as human shields , Hamas is the one who responsible for all those deaths .


You fire a weapon designed to kill people, you ARE responsible for whoever it kills. Period.
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Aug 7 2014 04:23am
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It's a pretty simple concept, the person who pulled the trigger is responsible.  Hamas isn't to blame when Israel decides to kill innocent civilians.


so when someone will fire rockets at your house, and your government will pull the trigger to protect you - your government is to blame for ?

correct. a really simple concept. Hamas is not even firing rockets.. those are candies with a clown head.

Plaugelord when guys like Hamas fire at you for years.. you can't just PM them like you do here to strangers. won't work.

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Aug 7 2014 04:26am
Quote (Plaguelord @ Aug 7 2014 01:22pm)
You fire a weapon designed to kill people, you ARE responsible for whoever it kills. Period.


They fire weapons aswell .
They started this conflict .
They are responsible for any death caused by both sides since they started it.
THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE .


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Aug 7 2014 04:27am
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so when someone will fire rockets at your house, and your government will pull the trigger to protect you - your government is to blame for ?

correct. a really simple concept. Hamas is not even firing rockets.. those are candies with a clown head.

Plaugelord when guys like Hamas fire at you for years.. you can't just PM them like you do here to strangers. won't work.

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You find the butchering of innocent Palestinians by IDF acceptable, why doesn't it work the other way around?

If you apply the same warped Zionist logic to the other side, then Hamas should be retaliating for the thousands of innocents you just murdered.

The really pathetic thing is you lot cry about bias and racism, when those are the very things keeping you from comprehending very simple logic.
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You find the butchering of innocent Palestinians by IDF acceptable, why doesn't it work the other way around?

If you apply the same warped Zionist logic to the other side, then Hamas should be retaliating for the thousands of innocents you just murdered.

The really pathetic thing is you lot cry about bias and racism, when those are the very things keeping you from comprehending very simple logic.


Who is blamed for WWI and WWII ?
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Aug 7 2014 04:31am
Quote (Yakir @ 7 Aug 2014 11:26)
They fire weapons aswell .
They started this conflict .
They are responsible for any death caused by both sides since they started it.
THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE .


You need to look up what responsible actually means. An israeli missle that kills a household full of palestinians or blows up a hospital does not get assigned to being Hamas' fault simply because you think Israel is infallible.

If you take a gun and shoot someone, and they die, you are responsible for their death. Whatever your reason for doing it was has zero effect on the fact that you committed murder. It doesn't magically become someone else's fault.

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Quote (Plaguelord @ Aug 7 2014 01:31pm)
You need to look up what responsible actually means.  An israeli missle that kills a household full of palestinians or blows up a hospital does not get assigned to being Hamas' fault simply because you think Israel is infallible.

If you take a gun and shoot someone, and they die, you are responsible for their death.  Whatever your reason for doing it was has zero effect on the fact that you committed murder.  It doesn't magically become someone else's fault.


Who is blamed for WWI and WWII ?

Also , who didnt let those people get out of this building ? who noticed those people that a bomb is going to hit their building ?
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Aug 7 2014 04:40am
Quote (Yakir @ 7 Aug 2014 11:34)
Who is blamed for WWI and WWII ?

Also , who didnt let those people get out of this building ? who noticed those people that a bomb is going to hit their building ?


Irrelevant to what I'm talking about. You simply can't argue with the innate logic that the israeli military is responsible for mass murder. The weapons they used killed people. Alot of people.

End of story.


You can say there were various reasons for it, or try to distill the severity of cold blooded murder by saying really asinine shit like "but we warned them that they would be bombed", "hamas uses human shields", or suggest that they forced people to stay in buildings being bombed, which is complete bullshit, but it doesn't change the fact that IDF murdered people.

Operation Protective Edge isn't the first time either, and it won't be the last.


I honestly think you're so paranoid of people being against israel that you just combat whatever you perceive as anti-israeli without actually considering the information being offered.

This post was edited by Plaguelord on Aug 7 2014 04:41am
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