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Aug 7 2014 05:06am
smart guy that Harper. at least one or two people in Canada see the world
as it really is.

those polls are not only forgotten but they are also the "hot talk on the streets kinda polls".

because none of you can boycott Israel, or do anything about it ;/ the Palestinians suffer will soon
be forgotten when Russia will do something stupid again in Ukraine or when Assad will use chemical leftovers
on his own people again. the world works that way. people who cares don't yell only when a conflict rises.

most protests and polls around those "hot issues" are all over, and very fast they go down.
been there, done that.

that's the reason why we knew from the start none of you speaks from some care for the Palestinians but only for the need to yell and yell Israel bla bla.

the ones that care - go and aid them.

so like i said.. Harper can see the reality in a clear view.

This post was edited by darksoho on Aug 7 2014 05:08am
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Aug 7 2014 07:47am
Quote (Many_Names @ Aug 7 2014 04:43am)
So this video suppose to be non biased?
Really?




When they will stop being driven from vengeance there will be peace.

this poll suggests otherwise:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-shows-canadians-split-on-support-for-israel-palestinians/


the poll is instructive since asking both sides instead of only Israel, but it still not an excuse to give blind ticket to kill families

if you think the video is biased you can tell why exactly, also i still iso neutral video about palestine / Israel, dont tell me that you posted something neutral :)

still iso real proof that Hamas use human shield since that is the redundant excuse for Israel to kill families

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Quote (thundercock @ 7 Aug 2014 01:23)
There is no "easy" answer for the Israel question. The Arabs, more often than not, have been the aggressors historically. That doesn't excuse Israeli violence, but it makes more sense to support them.

Did you know that Hamas was planning on using the tunnels to attack hundreds of Israelis on the Jewish New Year? If this war hadn't started, there would have been a massacre against the Jews. And what do you think would happen then? Gaza would have been completely annihilated.


No one is saying there is an easy answer. We're just very upset that our PM has deviated from the traditional Canadian stance and has not taken any constructive action. While the US will still criticize Israel for bombing schools and the unnecessary murder of civilians, our PM is keeping his mouth entirely shut and releasing videos like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq8MN0OBEO4

Whatever your opinion on this may be, it is not the opinion of the Canadian people.
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Quote (thundercock @ Aug 7 2014 12:53am)
There is no "easy" answer for the Israel question. The Arabs, more often than not, have been the aggressors historically. That doesn't excuse Israeli violence, but it makes more sense to support them.

Did you know that Hamas was planning on using the tunnels to attack hundreds of Israelis on the Jewish New Year? If this war hadn't started, there would have been a massacre against the Jews. And what do you think would happen then? Gaza would have been completely annihilated.


The problem is that Harper act like there was an easy answer (Israel unconditional support) and that Israel violence will always be excused

Like PesChye said, Americans still criticize Israel civilians murder while they support there defence against Hamas terrorists, in Canada we ha a one-side lame position with 0 empathy for innocent victims

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Aug 7 2014 07:35pm
Yes he does.
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Quote (Caedus @ Aug 7 2014 09:35pm)
Yes he does.


if you look the pool that many names posted you will find that 17% of our population favour Israel

It is ok if you are a part of that 17%, still far to be representative

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Quote (2sexy4u @ Aug 7 2014 09:55pm)
if you look the pool that many names posted you will find that 17% of our population favour Israel

It is ok if you are a part of that 17%, still far to be representative


What ever poll says this is inaccurate.
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Quote (Caedus @ Aug 7 2014 11:57pm)
What ever poll says this is inaccurate.


17% is representative ?



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Quote (2sexy4u @ 7 Aug 2014 15:47)
the poll is instructive since asking both sides instead of only Israel, but it still not an excuse to give blind ticket to kill families

if you think the video is biased you can tell why exactly, also i still iso neutral video about palestine / Israel, dont tell me that you posted something neutral :)

still iso real proof that Hamas use human shield since that is the redundant excuse for Israel to kill families


by shooting from U.N facilities,
By Shooting from Homes, Schools and other civilian buildings.
Here uses them as human shields.
and on the field literally uses them as human shields.

"Despite the call of the United Nations both sides of the conflict are continuing to fight each other"
Which is a lie, Israel accepted the ceasefire and Hamas didn't and then they kept fighting.

"Israel Deployed 4000 troops"
Israel have always had troops in the Gaza border and they are more then 4 thousands? why does it matter now?

Doesn't want to talk about the history which will take him all day? Really?

So Steven Harper is hypocrite because he said (It also highlights the hypocrite media):
"The Indiscriminate rockets attacks from Gaza on Israel are terrorists acts Which there is no justification it is evident that Hamas is deliberately using human shields to further teorror in the region"

Well actually he says NO! Ignore Ignore Ignore Human shield Propaganda.
He's sources tells differently... this video is a Joke on him.

this video Is biased...

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Quote (Many_Names @ Aug 8 2014 07:36am)
Here uses them as human shields.
and on the field literally uses them as human shields.


1. These claims have not been backed up by independent reporting from international journalists covering the war from Gaza. Instead, dispatches from the ground have presented complex reasons why some residents did not evacuate from Shujai'iya and other areas targeted by the IDF. Many said nowhere in Gaza was safe, so they saw little point in abandoning their homes.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/24/gaza-hamas-fighters-military-bases-guerrilla-war-civilians-israel-idf

Quote (Many_Names @ Aug 8 2014 07:36am)

"Despite the call of the United Nations both sides of the conflict are continuing to fight each other"
Which is a lie, Israel accepted the ceasefire and Hamas didn't and then they kept fighting. 


2. He does not mention the ceasefire, only pointing that each sides are continuing to fight, witch is right, i dont know how you can get confused here.

Quote (Many_Names @ Aug 8 2014 07:36am)

"Israel Deployed 4000 troops"
Israel have always had troops in the Gaza border and they are more then 4 thousands? why does it matter now? 


3. just mentioning a fact, maybe obvious for you but i had no clue how many troops were deployed, i guess there is more now that at the moment who he made the reporting.

Quote (Many_Names @ Aug 8 2014 07:36am)

Doesn't want to talk about the history which will take him all day? Really? 


4. It is not required to make a review of the history each time someone makes a report, my ancestor were massacred by english and i have to hate against there descendants, there is a time were you have to turn the page and look to the present if you want to end a war

Quote (Many_Names @ Aug 8 2014 07:36am)

So Steven Harper is hypocrite because he said (It also highlights the hypocrite media):
"The Indiscriminate rockets attacks from Gaza on Israel are terrorists acts Which there is no justification it is evident that Hamas is deliberately using human shields to further teorror in the region"


5. no, please read 1. again

Quote (Many_Names @ Aug 8 2014 07:36am)

Well actually he says NO! Ignore Ignore Ignore Human shield Propaganda.
He's sources tells differently... this video is a Joke on him. 


6. Nothing should be ignored, but we need real proof for something your country use as an excuse to murder families

Quote (Many_Names @ Aug 8 2014 07:36am)

this video Is biased.. 


biased
Inclination or prejudice for or against one person or group, especially in a way considered to be unfair

clearly not, he is only reporting facts that you dont like to hear about, lack of neutrality is more appropriate there like i mentioned.




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