They lack a proper cleave. Condition damage scaling is crap. Minions die in any aoe. Power builds are subpar to any class that brings party utility.

They can do just fine, but the issue is that people are used to party utility from others cause else they lack damage themselve.

You forgot they look cool (imo). ): At least they have that going for them.

This post was edited by LaFua on Jun 17 2014 08:42pm

It's all preference. I've been playing Necro for a long time, like a year and a half, and I love it. Although I mostly just roam WvW, it's a fun class, and can handle most fights quite well due to their innate tankiness with death shroud and their high health pool. I run condis myself, and find it very enjoyable from a PvP/WvW aspect.

They're not bad.
Others are just better.

Same issue with rangers. No reliable AoE melee. Damage stuck in a pet that doesn't do reliable damage.
Range damage per definition is worse, cause it's ranged... I understand that for PvP, but for PvE it doesn't make too much sense design wise... aside from most of it being single target.

There's just too much wrong with the mechanics of the characters to make them as viable as the others in PvE. But, they can still be just fine.
It's just simply a question of why would you take a necro for a certain situation? What do they bring to the table?
The answer... very little.



Here the answer is much different.
Dealing 1,000 bleeding on a PvE enemy with 1,000,000 health... takes a long time to kill. Might as well whack your sword at it for 5,000 per hit.

Dealing 1,000 bleeding on a person with 20,000 health... needs instant patching. Longer fights so longer time for the damage to build up. Ranged. Possibly AoE conditions.
Poison to reduce the healing is very important in WvW/PvP.

So yeah, conditions in WvW and PvP are very viable, so necros can shine there.


This post was edited by eekzie on Jun 18 2014 07:15am

nah, rangesr are good.

good rangers use sword/warhorn - greatsword.

put them vulnerable, frost spirit, spotter , really good

Vulnerability comes from warrior(s) already, should stack up to ~20.
Spotter can be nice, but generally people already have 90%+ crit chance.
Frost is nice I agree, but I don't think it makes up for lower overall damage.

In general it doesn't make up for it I would say.

This post was edited by eekzie on Jun 18 2014 01:05pm

it does

nah, warriors dosetn stack up to 20
and having many warriors is bad.

ranger si nice to have, 10+% damage increase is nice.

I was just teasing. Everyone was bashing on necros, I felt bad for them. ):

B...But, we can do fun things like this D:
Shameless plug, will remove if unwanted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABCya_k0zLA

This post was edited by Choxie on Jun 18 2014 03:31pm

omg

i hate when that happens to me