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Mar 25 2014 01:29pm
http://reason.com/archives/2014/03/25/hey-politico-apparently-public-schools-d

“How is it that these kids at hillbilly flat-earther private schools keep managing to score about the same or more often better than their public school peers on the NAEP Science exams?
Does the NAEP science framework ask a battery of questions on the Book of Genesis? Does learning how to play Duelling Banjos wire the mind for multiple choice science exams?”
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Mar 27 2014 11:56pm
I'm guessing this horse is long dead or any attempt at a rebuttal turned out to be a Herculean task.
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Mar 28 2014 07:32am
This doesn't mesh with a statist's narrative of the state of things, therefore it shall be ignored in the hopes that it goes away.
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Mar 28 2014 07:51am
Quote (dothe @ Mar 25 2014 03:29pm)
http://reason.com/archives/2014/03/25/hey-politico-apparently-public-schools-d

“How is it that these kids at hillbilly flat-earther private schools keep managing to score about the same or more often better than their public school peers on the NAEP Science exams?
Does the NAEP science framework ask a battery of questions on the Book of Genesis?  Does learning how to play Duelling Banjos wire the mind for multiple choice science exams?”


"Charter schools cost the Government about 1 billion per year in funding (public schools cost around 600 billion per year), some of them teach things like the earth is 10,000 years old, and man was created in the same form he is today.

Despite this, On the NAEP students that go to charter schools score about the same as students that go to public schools, unless they are poor, Hispanic, African American, or Native American, In which case they score many times higher than what their public school counter parts are scoring.

Underperforming schools tend to get the funding they deserve as an underperforming school rather than the funding they need to improve, while the best performing schools get the lions share. This form of distribution is quite a shame as often times public schools in minority neighborhoods arnt even able to teach some of the important science classes like chemistry.

If its well watched by the community to ensure students arnt treated as commodities, a charter school can be a very very good thing, especially for the impoverished and minorities."

i was reading an article on charter schools on the local news website, was going to post that up in defense of charter schools in the comments on an article.




we all know what needs to be done, something needs to be in place so charter schools arnt just being shut down left and right because the school feels like it, while the school and the community need to involved in what the charter school teaches to ensure that the children arnt becoming comodities and are learning what the parents want.

also, i really dont think they should be allowed to teach religion. the tolerance for religion in a public school ciricilum should be carried over in the same degree to charter schools.


and we also really need to extend the review period for a teacher to get tenure, consider poor performance as well as senoirty when firing, and make it a tiny bit easier for schools to fire prolonged poor performing teachers that have tenure. though in no way should any of this be based on test scores of students.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on Mar 28 2014 08:07am
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Mar 28 2014 10:35am
About 1/3rd of kids in charter school are doing better than kids in public schools, and that is a big jump from over the years.

If you guys want to see what a real study on the matter looks like click here: http://credo.stanford.edu/documents/NCSS%202013%20Final%20Draft.pdf

On average charter schools still do much worse overall, but have some success stories sprinkled around the otherwise poor results.

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About 1/3rd of kids in charter school are doing better than kids in public schools, and that is a big jump from over the years.

If you guys want to see what a real study on the matter looks like click here:  http://credo.stanford.edu/documents/NCSS2013FinalDraft.pdf 

On average charter schools still do much worse overall, but have some success stories sprinkled around the otherwise poor results.


how is "better" operationalized in this study?
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