Cleave* not bash ... Silly D2 lingo

FYI, I feel that the movement is faster with leap call of areate instead of sprint.

Also the bloodbath damage i think is unassigned so you don't get the ruthless bonus, so you might as well go with weapons master for the crit chance.

I tried overpower KS instead of sprint, but it wasn't as good as leap because leap also generates some fury.

Leap is good to get over the ledge at the bottom, if you used up your furious charge and it hasn't replenished. Jumping over wallers etc.

@MannerCookie why you don't use Rent with Lacerate?

lacerate doesn't give as much potential damage as bloodbath.

Bloodbath gives it's initial damage and then 100% again as a mob dies, since mobs can die at different times, it does reapply the damage.

That damage has a chance to crit and from looking at the mechanics the damage is non-typed, but i'm not sure if it's not unassigned. I have a feeling it is unassigned damage though.

If it assigned to you, then if the mob has less than 40 percent health, which it should, then the rend will do 30% more damage due to your passive.

Lacerate is also good, you could test if your DPS is high enough to kill with a normal or crit lacerate on it's own. If you can't kill them with a normal hit, then you're running the chance of loosing a lot of exp since you can't really achieve 100% chc quiet yet.

rends do 30% more damage because of ruthless indeed.

lacerate > bloodbath, only if your damage is so low that you need the extra 350% to secure kills.

as long as this isn't the case, which isn't even for a budget barb, bloodbath is much more value per fury spent on rend.

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You'll notice I switched to CD reduction in the shoulders/glove slots, this will be explained in the future (it is for group runs). My gloves for some reason show up wrong, it's 302 str, 5atk, 10cc, 6cdr. Not perfect, would prefer CD > atk, but didn't really feel like rolling more.

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This post was edited by MannerCookie on Mar 8 2014 06:43am

hello, when should i use into the fray over blodshed? <40%crit?

always ITF > BS with a rend/slaughter build inside COTA.

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This post was edited by MannerCookie on Mar 8 2014 08:25am

If your CHC is very high, bloodshed is > that ITF.

Damage wise, since you get 20% AOE from bloodshed from crits, generally speaking the breakpoint is probably at a point where bloodshed would only give you less than 5-10 percent more of your total CHC. So if your CHC is greater than 60, I would probably go with bloodshed over ITF.

No bloodshed is never > ITF in a rend/slaughter build for COTA runs.

critting more > critting and getting 20% splash damage.

depends on build, but for my charge/rend variation and with optimal gear (your generally a tad lower in CC and much lower in CD, but raw damage is +++) ITF > bloodshed and it's not close at all.

also optimal gear is not hard to farm unless your brand new(lack of gold/demonic essences), majority of the slots can be crafted.

In rend/slaughter which requires no APS, I'm running primarily 2.0 - 60 items.

This post was edited by MannerCookie on Mar 8 2014 09:54am