Quote (NatureNames @ Sep 21 2014 08:23pm)
In my opinion KMFDM is industrial or industrial rock. Same with 1985-1990 Ministry, and 1990s Nine Inch Nails. Just because somebody decided to put these bands names on a Wikipedia article with the source being some random magazine articles, doesn't make them definitively metal. Its just somebody's opinion. Just like you and I have different opinions. I grew up listening to those bands and in the 90s nobody ever called them "industrial metal". That phrase didn't exist in 1986-2000. I'm not sure were people got the notion that they are suddenly metal now.
i didnt base my selections off wikipedia, i based them off my own knowledge/opinion. the riffs kmfdm are much more metal riffs than rock riffs. which would make them technically industrial-metal. so why werent they called that? simple, the term wasnt around yet. but once it was, it can retroactively be applied to them. similarly, theyre not even industrial. real plain industrial is the old stuff like skinny puppy, throbbing gristle, etc. the more recent stuff like kmfdm, nin, and stuff like this -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOOk8P6WVbY is more accurately called electro-industrial. but its usually just called industrial. both for simplicity's sake and because when it first started coming out the term didnt exist. same for industrial-metal. the fact that the term didnt exist at first doesnt change what the music is.
pretty much anytime you start mixing genres describing it is going to get muddled. the term industrial-metal seems to fit pretty well to me, though, idk why people seem so touchy about it.
Quote (NatureNames @ Sep 21 2014 08:23pm)
Sounds like metal to me. In any case, I hadn't intended this topic to be about anything relating to metal. Perhaps you could post this "metal with industrial elements" in a metal related topic.
like i said, its a metal base, but theres a definite industrial influence both in rhythm and synth elements.