we'll see from what they do with games

i have a ps3 all ready dont need to buy a ps4 to play ps3 games

For all the multi media functions like as a mouse cursor, pinch to zoom in/out. Plus can be used well in a lot of games and not just as a gimick.

I love it when people say things like this as if the word convenience has no meaning in their life.

i guess so but its not a deal breaker ill just keep my ps3 hooked up till im done with those games

Not being backwards compatible with disks isn't a deal breaker for me either, but not being able to play previously purchased PSN tittles would be (If I had as many purchased as I do on the 360).

The ability to play the previous gen disks on the next gen console with the new interface and upgraded hardware would be a huge convenience though.

i would like to have space on my shelf for other things

I'll take famous titties for 400.

i have 4 systems hooked up now with room for 2 more... get a bigger space

my tv only has 3hdmi imputs

if i get a ps4 i cant get anther console