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#11
Nov 16 2012 10:40am
Quote (brueger @ Nov 16 2012 06:36pm)
i stuck in ancient times? ^^ well i think my barb is better than yours

http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/profile/brueger-2861/hero/2145473

210k dps with battle rage on and maniac stacked.
455k dps with wrath.  sword and shield barb


(nice gear yes) its not better than a ww or hota barb no, you have high paper dps but counts for nothing cuz your killspeed is very slow compared to other builds since your max crit is 250k with a single target skill lol (and 480k max frenzy crit with insanity on, thats like only 10% of the time tho) ... yes frenzy has as bonus but it will never outdps a ww barb, even one with lower sheet dps. Not to mention boring, cuz frenzy is just a hacking single target skill with no fun aoe action like ww or that powerful feeling you get when hota perma crits and you can leech so much that you tank and stand in 4 different elemental affix mobs with shit hp, resists and armor.

and by that comment i meant it ... as in, zrave's build is oldschool, tanky but boring / slow compared to hota / wthrow / sslam / ww nado builds

why do you always get so defensive everytime i post something lol

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Nov 16 2012 11:01am
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Nov 16 2012 10:45am
try my skill setup hmm you dont need the shout and ignore pain. just jump...
just posted my build not for the equipment only for the skills i use

http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/calculator/barbarian#WcPXRk!ZYb!cZZaac

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Nov 16 2012 10:50am
Quote (brueger @ Nov 16 2012 05:08pm)
hmm maybe i should make a guide ^^
the last good guide i have seen is from zrave.
i mean wtf? ignore pain instead of battle rage? joking?Nope I'm not a WW barb
your damage is too low for farming efficient mp 5+No I farm MP 6 actually
i think frenzy with the lighting rune is not the best allround solution too because not every mob is a ranged mobAnd if I use taunt what happens? All mobs run to me
for me frenzy maniac the best solution (second option: sidearm)Damage increase is unnecessary vs ubers
doenst frenzy maniac push your rend damage?Yes it boosts all damage

thats my barb:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/profile/brueger-2861/hero/2145473


Quote (brueger @ Nov 16 2012 05:36pm)
i stuck in ancient times? ^^ well i think my barb is better than yours

http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/profile/brueger-2861/hero/2145473

210k dps with battle rage on and maniac stacked.
455k dps with wrath.  sword and shield barb
OK you are richer than me. Well done

Quote (markilbaldacchino @ Nov 16 2012 05:33pm)
you stuck in ancient times bro LOL, so much has changed

@OP: Can you make a video of this in action?  Can imagine this barb doing ok in a group but not alone tbh

And i just wanted to say:

Rend-Blood lust This is the new revenge, it has a cost of only 20 fury and will help keep you at top health. Unlike revenge you won't be waiting around for it to become active so it's much more viable.---> its quite good yes i love rend too, but its not *that* op, its healing over time, residual effects .... especially considering 75k dps and only 3 ll on gear, its not op. Revenge with a high health pool and ehp would trump this anyday. So revenge vs a single target gains 5% of your HP and procs on 30% of hits. You stun with smite 20% of your hits up until they become cc immune for a few seconds and you can keep rend on them constantly for a constant stream of health regen (saving on life steal and life on hit from gear which drops the price of gear drastically) I believe for this build and for many barbs rend with blood lust is more viable than revenge because it doesn't solely rely on luck

War cry-Impunity This is a great team skill and boosts everyone's armour (and resistances? unsure). It will help keep you and your team alive ---> Yes it does, and its your build youre supposed to know what the skill rune does and why you chose that particular one lmao - Unsure of the res bonus because I haven't checked with friends. Sorry about that but I know someone would know.


Wrath of the berserker-Insanity "Where is your permanent CC immunity?" I hear you ask, I don't need it is the short answer. I will be stood in the middle of everything so jailer isn't a problem (fear can be a pain) and popping ignore pain just before being frozen (if wrath is on cool down) is enough to keep you alive. The 100% bonus damage is amazing and will help in uber fights and while farming stacks and keys. --> Not to mention you cant go TOC anyway, no good spenders and no into the fray in your build. I don't need into the fray because as you said I don't have any big fury spenders.

Threatening shout-Demoralize A very underused skill. I take this over battle rage because my role is to be the front line and take damage while other people deal damage. Demoralize pulls all enemies close to you so your rend hits a lot more mobs. The ubers are immune to the taunt but the 20% damage reduction still effects them (as far as I can tell)---> Yes that 20% dr affects their melee dmg, its very useful vs siege in particular- Thanks


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Nov 16 2012 10:54am
i am not ww too ^^ dont like them
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Nov 16 2012 10:56am
Quote (brueger @ Nov 16 2012 05:54pm)
i am not ww too ^^ dont like them


Ignore pain = 5 seconds of invincibility every 30 seconds. Ignorance is bliss = 100-100k hp in one rend. If you realllllllllllllly wanna use Rage then go for it. It's a guide not a bible
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Nov 16 2012 11:01am
^^ guides should be a bible

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Nov 16 2012 11:02am
Quote (brueger @ Nov 16 2012 07:01pm)
^^ guides should be a bible



keno?
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Nov 16 2012 11:03am
what? but you are not ww nado thats what i like.
btw a sword would be better for your build. i tried axe and sword. sword >> axe

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Nov 16 2012 11:09am
Quote (fullmetalsilverback @ Nov 16 2012 06:56pm)
Ignore pain = 5 seconds of invincibility every 30 seconds.Ignorance is bliss = 100-100k hp in one rend. If you realllllllllllllly wanna use Rage then go for it. It's a guide not a bible



A bit exaggerated, but yeah its very powerful with ignorance is bliss.

However you wont get 100k even if all the ticks of rend crit taking the max wpn dmg range only into account, over a single 5 second sequence, with your dps / ignore pain / ik belt.

7 over 5 seconds x 0.2 x 0.32 x 1000 x 22 x 4.72 = 46520 life over 5 seconds though, vs one target, but thats assuming 100% crit chance and all hits take 1000 dmg from 567-982 wpn range + 28 max from ring (Average would be 10k life in one sequence, so you would never hit 100k with one target and would need 7-10 targets for 100k :P )

Mega nerd here, scrutinising everything :P :P like your build though very original

Quote (brueger @ Nov 16 2012 07:03pm)
what? but you are not ww nado thats what i like.
btw a sword would be better for your build. i tried axe and sword.  sword >> axe



no

10 crit chance > 15% dmg

axe have more avg dmg than sword, and sword average dmg x 15% = more or less axe average dmg

sword at the loss of 10 crit chance and little to no gain?

attacks per second is not an issue with frenzy either, and only 0.1 aps difference anyway

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Nov 16 2012 11:12am
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#20
Nov 16 2012 11:10am
Quote (brueger @ Nov 16 2012 06:01pm)
^^ guides should be a bible


so you follow every guide to the letter? I'm not a dictator you can do whatever you like. In fact screw the guide play wizard instead.
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