Quote (markilbaldacchino @ Nov 9 2012 01:56am)
he probably means socket / ias ef vs socket / cd, i would go socket / ias too if theres a new speed bp in reach. Would choose that over 50-80 cd, when i still have 100 cd in socket, anyday. but yeah preference ....
and about this
it adds more raw dmg then most rings yes, but at the expense of a possible speed bp, more cc, and also vs elites only
its only vs elites, and in higher mp your overall kill speed suffers as a result
with a godly rare ring you can reach more crit chance and another speed breakpoint, not only more tornado damage numbers, so even more effective dps
here is the math
SOJ 25elite, 6% ele
with 500-1000 mainhand, 400 cd, 2000 str
vs
ring 1 60 str, 20cd, 8 ias
ring 2 25-60 dmg, 30 cd, 110 str, 4cc, 8 ias
SOJ 500 - 1000 x 1.46 x 21 x 5 x 0.2 = 15330 - 30660
ring 1 500 - 1000 x 1.15 x 21.6 x 5.2 x 0.2 = 12916 - 25833 AND 8 ias AND vs all mobs, not just elites ---> I would pick SOJ here yes, most probably
ring 2 525 - 1060 x 1.15 x 22.1 x 5.3 x 0.2 = 14143 - 28556 AND 8 ias AND 4 cc AND vs all mobs, not just elites --> I would pick rare ring over here
if you poor like me, soj is the way lol.
i never had the luxury to have one of those CRAZZZZZZZY rare ones to try out. Someone linked me a basic barb unity and it upd my dps 19k haha (this was compared to my soj but the screen doesnt calculate soj dam) but that 19k boost is still pretty beast for such a basic ring. I could imagine getting a rare with attack speed and CD on top of it.
On the thing about the "fake" dps crap from attack speed that you guys got all upset about, i only mentioned that cause it goes back to the basics when like you had a lvl8 char and you threw on that first blue ring (a plain 3% attack speed ring) it would up your dps by quite a few numbers. And yes, i now see it in the terms of how people "Word stuff" if you read it out "damage per second" and not damage per hit (though i do at times keep thinkin dps is like "damage per hit" and not per say damage per second cause you could hit more then 1 time per second with lots of attack speed...). So you cant hate me on that lol, it was simply from my own playin experience of actually playin the dam game and seein how the game added in dps from the attack speed mod.
But yes attack speed is good, get it so you can hit break points, im all for that. I up'd my attack speed recently (mine was pretty slow before, i think i was at like 1.7x or 1.8 on my dagger side before i got a few extra attack speed items) and the nado speed is ridiculous now...i think im at like 2.1x something area now in non wotb setup on dagger side. I feel like i was in berserker mode of my old setup lol (and when i went into berserk mode, it feels even more sexy).
i only share what i experience from my own personal playin experience. And watever works for me, im sure it would work for others.
So for now i like my soj (i dont have those crazy xx-xx + 6%cc, 40+CD, high str, 9% attack speed rings to try haha, though gettin 2 of those would definately make me wanna slap those bad boys on pronto). I mean the soj is doing its job so i'll roll wit it. watever works works i guess
This post was edited by ButtPirate7 on Nov 10 2012 01:58am