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thebiker
#1 Jul 27 2012 09:55am
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many ppl talk about this build, but there isn't a guide yet, so i'll try to post some guideline to build your own WW barbian step by step.
First of all i'll talk about the requirements, because D3 is a fully equipment based game, so if you can hit them you can continue reading and discover mechanisms and strategies of this build.

REQUIREMENTS:
  • ~40% total crit chance: 3%buff + 15%passive skill +5%base --> still need ~17 cc from gloves/jewelry/helms
  • 1k+ loh --> find it in jewelry+weapons
  • ~45k life --> ~1000 vita ( 1 vita point is 35hp, and barb have 127 base vita at lvl60)
  • ~535 all res base (800 buffed) --> find it in armor grear, remember +x int means +x/10 all res (base barb res: 7)
  • Life Leech note: if you are really rich and you can reach 100k+dps, you can serach for Life leech instead of LoH, but only i you have a really high dps else will not works (in Inferno there are a huge reduction on it!)

INTRODUCTION:
the main point of this build is hit enemies, and get fury + life from each hit , how?
life -> life on hit
fury -> crit hit (-battle rage)
these two resources (you don't say?) are the thing that keep you alive and make this build works so fine.
the main skill to reach them is SPRINT, not whirlwind, this is the most important thing to understand

SKILLS:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#ahiUkP!ZYb!YZYZcc
  • BASH (instigation) [left click]
    a useful skill to get enought fury to start with battle range & sprint... someone prefer frenzy, but i prefer bash.
  • WHIRLWIND (Hurricane) [right click]
    this is our primary attack when we are at full fury , and keep hurricane becouse run fast with this build is basic for survive
  • WARTH OF THE BERSEKER (Thrive on Chaos)
    with this build (and rune), you can keep the berseker for 2+ minutes without problems... and it grants crazy bonuses, (+25ias, +20 dodge, +20 movment, +10 cc)... i always use it with elite packs
    especially for jailer\frozen\vortex and similar, they are terrible, this barb CAN'T stay stop, you always have to move with sprint (for tornadoes that heals and give you fury)... and with Berseker, monsters can't block you with their skills.
  • SPRINT (run like the wind)
    the tornadoes released from this skill is our lifeblood, the trick is keep tornadoes always under enemies turning around them or running away( so they will follow you).
    always keep is casted when you fight, ALWAYS. it's only 3 second so you have to lanch this skill many times.
    You must also keep it casted when you are WWing!
  • BATTLE RAGE (into the fray)
    fury each crit hit
  • WAR CRY (impunity)
    armor & res.
    always keep on these two buffs , pay attention cuz without one of them, you're dying quickly.
  • Passive: Ruthless, Weapon master, nerves of steel
    crit cc/crit dmg and armor...if you feel like you can handle it, you can, you can change nervs of steel with another offensive skills, but i don't suggest it.

STATS - EQUIPMENT:
there isn't any end game item that i can tell you that barbian one of the most expensive classes i think, so the more money you spend, the stronger you'll be
I'll talk about the most important statistics, then you'll be free to manage your money and improve your barb step by step, day by day.
Of course, vita, str and all res are important...they are always important, you already know it, and i've posted the requirements in the introduction.
then, in my opinion the rule is:
CRIT CHANGE (cc) > ATTACK SPEED (ias) > CRIT DAMAGE (cd)

cc is basic, you need to keep your fury full so you can use your skill... it's important to understand that this build is so FRAIL, for survive you must hit MANY times, your defense is attack
and without enought cc -> no fury -> no skill -> no hits -> DIE.

then, we can work on IAS...obviously faster hit = more hit = more life & fury!

for last, CD... dps is important, but it's the last and most expensive thing, so think to it for last

finnaly, just some notes about the items you should serach for:
(adds ordered by importance)
  • helm: all res, crit chance, stats
  • amu\rings: crit chance, loh, stats, crit dmg, all res
  • belt: all res, stats
  • chest: all res, stats
  • plants: all res, stats
  • boots: all res, 12% mov speed (VERY useful), stats
  • gloves: crit change, all res, stats, crit damage
  • bracers: crit change, all res, stats
  • shoulders: all res, stats
  • hand: MUST be a axe\mace (+10cc with passive skill) with LOH, stats, crit dmg
  • offhand: i prefer to use another weapon (LOH,stats, crit dmg), but a good shield with allres, cc, stats is good too (but you'll have less dmg)
  • dual wielding note
    • When you’re wielding two weapons, you alternate the weapon you hit with
    • attack speed bouns: you recive a +15% attack speed
    • sprint's tornadoes attacks with the primary hand and the attack speed is influenced from both weapon: the better thing is serach for high dmg on #1h and high aps on off-hand
    • the bonus of two weapon are summed (stats, loh, etc)
    • http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/game/guide/items/equipment#dual-wielding
  • MERC: scoundrel! he adds 3% crit chance which is pretty useful for this build

the more the batter is the rule on that char... there isn't a min stats on every items, i just set at the start the stats you have to reach to works well, then the batter thing to do is look at ours money, take pen and paper (or excel) and start finding an equipment that provide the minimum requirements...
anyway, i can provide an exemple of a list with some not expensive item that i used to start:
  • helm: helm of command with all res and cc, quite cheap on AH
  • amu: kymbo, or ouroboros (loh and cc)
  • boots: Sage's Seekers with few stats (cuz all res + 12% speed are guaranteed)
  • gloves: find some with cc, all res and a few stats
  • bracers & ring: you can put some cc here to get 40% total crit chance, for example i have cc on bracers and rings with stats/all res only
  • hand, offhand: start with a low dmg (~600) loh weapon if you can't afford a good one... and remember: +100str > +100dps... stats on weapon are VERY useful
  • the other eq parts don't need particular adds, just allres & stats... i guess at least ~60@ , 80 str , 80 vita
  • i notice you also some nice set: immortal king (2 items -> +60 all res) and blackthorne (2 items -> +100vita)

MY BARB:
here's a screen (i put the link to keep the topic clean, just click it) of my stats and gear, it's not endgame for sure, but it's quite decent (little over the requirements i said):
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6725/barbequ.jpg
note: i started with a lower items, so dont worry if you can't still afford items like mine
A video (Act3 elites): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF2WZyEWAbA
(thanks to Loans for technical video support)

DANTE's BARB:
here's an other example of a WW barb, with higher dps, he relies on the "insanity" rune on wrath of the berserker because 15 seconds are enough to kill champs with 109k dps
screenshot of his gear & stats: http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/8923/fullbarb.png
video of him killing diablo on inferno:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbzLalXuPBo



okay, i think there is all information you need to set up your WW barb and start farming inferno,and remember:
i suggest you to start play this build in act1, act2, act3, act4 in this order because play it isn't so easy, you may have good items but no skill and you think that WW barb sucks, but it's not true so make some act1-2 run before farming a3-a4
Thanks to Dante and swmarwij for syntax & grammar support.
thebiker
#2 Jul 27 2012 09:56am
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After some pages of discussion, it's ready.
The old topic is here: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=63953107&f=142

Hope you like it!
For any question, post here or feel free to PM me (or Dante)

Quote (Dante @ 27 Jul 2012 17:56)

edit: fu dude, i wanted to be first^^

fail :P


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Dante
#3 Jul 27 2012 09:56am
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first! nah just kidding, im available for questions aswell as him
also making more videos if there are any requests, just post

edit: fu dude, i wanted to be first^^

Quote (thebiker @ 27 Jul 2012 17:56)
After some pages of discussion, it's ready.
The old topic is here: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=63953107&f=142

Hope you like it!
For any question, post here or feel free to PM me (or Dante)


fail :P


noob doubleposter

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foxracing13
#4 Jul 27 2012 11:32am
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1) Enchantress > scoundrel. Can't mess with 3percent dps (is it that?) / 15percent armor boost.
2) You said ias > crit damage but nowhere in your item suggestions do you say to get ias

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thebiker
#5 Jul 27 2012 11:37am
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Quote (foxracing13 @ 27 Jul 2012 19:32)
1) Enchantress > scoundrel. Can't mess with 3percent dps (is it that?)  / 15percent armor boost.
2) You said ias > crit damage but nowhere in your item suggestions do you say to get ias


1)enchantress is good too, also for +3% ias... but armor... this barb have pretty low armor anyway :) imo, +3%cc is better
2) yes lol, i forgot it. Anyway, the answer is easy... everyone knows where they can find ias: jewelry, gloves and some legendary items like tal armor.

btw thanks for your check!
jf59
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How much did your gear cost, roughly?
Dante
#7 Jul 27 2012 12:44pm
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Quote (foxracing13 @ 27 Jul 2012 19:32)
1) Enchantress > scoundrel. Can't mess with 3percent dps (is it that?)  / 15percent armor boost.
2) You said ias > crit damage but nowhere in your item suggestions do you say to get ias



i personally believe that scoundrel is better
the more crit chance u have, the more chance is there that ur tornados will get crits -> therefore ur chance is higher to keep running on fury
that means u can generate more fury to sprint away or to keep whirling, which means to leech life
it doesnt matter how much damage u take as long as they dont raise into ridicolous amounts

Quote (jf59 @ 27 Jul 2012 20:40)
How much did your gear cost, roughly?


mine was probably around 46mil ( a lot of items bought at different times though )
Esajoram
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I wouldnt switch away from enchantress, my barb has 7100 def without and 7900 with her
also she gives 3 ias which is great ( I value these adds way more than 3% cc but i guess if i was really low on crit chance then i might want scoundrel more)

Also one thought about ww barbs: depending on playing style I tend to be more agressive with WW and therefore use string of ears 20% with 100str / 40vita instead of rare belt + firewalkers with 4% reduce which makes me able to WW in middle of stacks a little more freely than i could otherwise
without DR one has to avoid big groups of monsters a little more relying on tornados

anyway nice guide im sure ppl find it useful :)

e: also ~35k+ life can be enough for ww barb if other gear is godly I guess
e: im having 39k and its not a big issue

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Dante
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Quote (Esajoram @ 27 Jul 2012 20:47)
I wouldnt switch away from enchantress, my barb has 7100 def without and 7900 with her
also she gives 3 ias which is great

Also one thought about ww barbs: depending on playing style I tend to be more agressive with WW and therefore use string of ears 20% with 100str / 40vita instead of rare belt + firewalkers with 4% reduce which makes me able to WW in middle of stacks a little more freely than i could otherwise
without DR one has to avoid big groups of monsters a little more relying on tornados

anyway nice guide im sure ppl find it useful :)


hm, i could post a video of me whirling through ~100 mobs
it doesnt really matter, the more mobs, the better
i sometimes have 3 champs on me and dont even notice one or two of them (different groups i mean not single mobs) because there are so many mobs around and i simply dont lose life cuz my hp bar will go up as fast as it drops
the problem i personally have is on single mobs
the best way to handle those ( if problematic to tank ) is to run away with sprint, let the whirls do the job for some fury & hp ( from loh ) and then hit it and keep kiting like that

ive been trying with the scoundrel and the enchantress, but i just like the scoundrel better
i also gave him an ice damage bow
now he freezes mobs, stuns mobs, blinds mobs and gives me crit which lets me generate fury more easily
i like having less trouble on the fury so thats my personal preference ^^
by the way, im at 6500 armor without a single problem :o

with 42k life here

by the way, a little theory maths on the damage ( not sure if im doing it right, just curious )

lets take an axe, it has 1.30 aps
1.3 (axe base) * 1.03 ( from the ias bonus ) = 1.339 * 800 (example dps ) = 1071
now the 3% crit, i have 328% crit dmg
1.3*800+ 800*3.28*0.03 = 1040 + 78,72 = 1118,72

not sure whether i did the maths right, but it somewhat makes sense to me

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RiskOfFire
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Very impressive guide good job!
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