yeah..i'm not sure what to add but uhm..heres mine so far..

--> max bow

--> sneak

--> light armor ( wasn't sure about this..)

-->echantment ( wasn't rlly sure about this either.)


switch weapon if i dont got any bows for starters, uhm knife/shield? or just sword/axe/sheild idk!

uhm..should i go riften first? or just go straight doing campion/darkbrotherhood missions

not sure so help!

This post was edited by Neko on May 21 2012 09:41am

Honestly you should discover the game for yourself and play how you want.

I went dark brotherhood on mine.

Also went dual daggers also. That power attack comes in pretty handy.


Now I want to make another sneaky bowa.. >,<

Drop the enchantment and go for illusion or alchemy instead, illusion is better since it has both the muffle and invisibility spells in it, and casting muffle out of combat still levels it, so its easy to raise if you stack on mana potions and keep casting it for a while.
However, it does make sound. you'll have to wait for it to become really usefull, mainly for the perk @illusion 80 (silent casting) wich makes all your spells silent.

If you go with alchemy instead, you'd need to stock up on Chaurus Eggs, Crimson Nirnroot, Ice Wraith Teeth, Luna Moth Wing, Nirnroot or Vampire Dust, so you can use them to create invisibility potions. these can be reapplied much faster, and make no sound, so you won't need to wait till you can get the perk for it, but you will be hunting for ingredients a lot.

if you do at least the first few quests for the dark brotherhood first (just do the aventus arentino quest straight away then rest in a bed somewhere to get invited) so you can get the gloves with 2x Sneak damage multiplier (with 1 handed weapons only), with the perk in the stealth tree, this gives you 30x damage while doing a sneak attack using daggers (only 12x with swords).
coupled with invisibility and muffle, his allows for allmost all the enemies to be one shotted, especially if/when you get sneak to 100, so you can drop int sneak even during combat.

This post was edited by xosmi on May 23 2012 03:30pm

ah..i was going do that too lol.

meh i dont rlly need dual daggers, just need close combat if im out of bowas.

sneaky bowas are fun to make.

hums..sound like good idea thanks though, i always use muffle/illlusion though lol.
ah that's not problem getting illusion @ 80.

i hardly hunt for ingredients, i usually buy them @ places, too much hastle for me, just searching for stuff.


ya, ima do dark brotherhood first, sound like good idea though, having 2x sneak dmg multiplier. oh wow.. i didn't know dagger does that much dmg then swords lol. i thought it did little ammount loll.

well i did few times, i'm usually warrior person since im really good with that, not much mage and never made thief/sneaky bow character before which why i need help for

Dual daggers
Light armor
Alchemy ( poisons, invisibility, )
Sneak
Enchanting ( personal preference )
Archery


Optional Conjuration, Alteration

Dark Brotherhood -> Thieves

ah thanks, i'm not sure going dual daggers.

Dual daggers = dual poison power attack = dead. There is no alternative that comes close. Your focus is to kill as fast as possible.

Ive got a level 52 assassin type, i play on Master.

This. There's no need for a Shield or axe. Should def go dual daggers. Your using light armor so you want to end the close combat engagement as fast as possible.

Daggers can get to 30x multiplier (as long as it's a sneak attack ofc). There's the 15x multiplier in the one handed perk tree then you slap on the Dark brotherhood gloves which makes it 30x.

Yeah, there's a pretty big diffrence there, since the base multiplier compared to swords and bows (x3 and x6 with perks) is so high. (base on daggers with perk is x15)
Also, as you level, the random loot you find in quests goes up in quality, but generally, daggers are the first weapons you are going to find in a higher tier then what you are currently using.

Add to that the fact that when you finish the Death Incarnate quest (dark brotherhood quest line) you can get the blade of woe off of astrid, It's affected by the Steel Smithing perk, meaning that it can be improved twice as much at a grindstone. (you will need the arcane smithing perk since it's a magic weapon though)
With a Smithing skill of 100 (you can use items/potions to artificially raise this, since you don't need any high smithing lvl perks to improve this weapon),you can get a base damage upwards of 60. Combined with the Assassin's Blade perk and Shrouded Hand Wraps/Shrouded Gloves/Jester's Gloves/or Ancient Shrouded Gloves, (all give the 2x sneak damage multiplier and are found during the dark brotherhood quest line) sneak attacks can reach 1,800+ damage.

The enchantment on it isn't really too special, only leeches 10 health from the target to yourself, but you'll be able to pick this up much quicker and won't have to put so much in smithing.
You get a high damage weapon available much quicker, and you will be doing the dark brotherhood quest line anyway if you want access to any of the gloves. (i only started finding ebony daggers around lvl 40, daedric around 45, if rushing the dark brotherhood quests from the start you can get the dagger before you even hit lvl 10, though you might be lacking a bit in the blacksmithing tree at that point.)

I like to get faendal as a follower in riverwood straight after helgen, then get him to train my archery up to lvl 50. (when you get him as a follower you can just trade items with him to get your gold back
During the dark brotherhood quests you can pick up the Firiniel's End Bow as well (after the wedding assassination talk to gabriela, you'll find it on the ledge where the couple adresses the crowd iirc)
It has a really good base damage, isn't influenced by character level as well.
with it's high base damage (around the same as a glass bow) and an enchantment of 20 points of frost damage to Health and Stamina, it's a pretty great bow.
You will need elven smithing to be able to improve this weapon though (wich shouldn't be too much work to get to, seeing as you will need to get to arcane smithing anyway)

to raise blacksmithing, just pick up all the leather/pelts you can and when you have a good stack of them just use that to continuously make hide bracers, it's what i do anyway.

This post was edited by xosmi on May 24 2012 04:07am