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May 22 2012 03:24pm
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Where?

The 9th and 10th amendments are what cover morality and the regulation thereof...


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...

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May 22 2012 03:27pm
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...

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And I just said that we could legislate morality as long as it doesn't violate the Constitution....where am I advocating that we ban the worshiping of Vishnu? I'm saying that we can ban sinful acts such as sex in public...
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May 22 2012 03:30pm
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And I just said that we could legislate morality as long as it doesn't violate the Constitution....where am I advocating that we ban the worshiping of Vishnu?  I'm saying that we can ban sinful acts such as sex in public...


The notion that it's sinful isn't the reason why it's banned. :P
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May 22 2012 03:32pm
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And I just said that we could legislate morality as long as it doesn't violate the Constitution....where am I advocating that we ban the worshiping of Vishnu?  I'm saying that we can ban sinful acts such as sex in public...


I specifically asked you questions about using the force of law to mandate Christian morality on to non-Christians. Can you please explain how this doesn't constitute a violation of the first amendment as understood by most modern people?
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May 22 2012 03:37pm
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I specifically asked you questions about using the force of law to mandate Christian morality on to non-Christians. Can you please explain how this doesn't constitute a violation of the first amendment as understood by most modern people?


It would mainly occur on a local level (such as certain counties in Utah prohibiting the sale of alcohol due to Mormonism). I think this is acceptable if people in an area feel that it adversely affects their life.

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The notion that it's sinful isn't the reason why it's banned. :P


You don't know that. Some people may have voted to get that law in place because they believe it's sinful. Others may have done it for secular reasons. The point is, morality WAS legislated. Their justification doesn't really matter in my opinion.
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May 22 2012 03:39pm
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It would mainly occur on a local level (such as certain counties in Utah prohibiting the sale of alcohol due to Mormonism).  I think this is acceptable if people in an area feel that it adversely affects their life.



You don't know that.  Some people may have voted to get that law in place because they believe it's sinful.  Others may have done it for secular reasons.  The point is, morality WAS legislated.  Their justification doesn't really matter in my opinion.


Where in the bible does it mention that sex in public is sinful? If that were true then people would ban sex in movies because it's public.

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May 22 2012 03:41pm
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Where in the bible does it mention that sex in public is sinful? If that were true then people would ban sex in movies because it's public.


Certain movies with sex in them ARE banned from public in SEVERAL counties in America..
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May 22 2012 03:42pm
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Certain movies with sex in them ARE banned from public in SEVERAL counties in America..


And it's because the bible said that sex in public is sinful, right? Kinda like praying in public, right?
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May 22 2012 03:47pm
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And it's because the bible said that sex in public is sinful, right? Kinda like praying in public, right?


They say it's "obscene." Why do you think they say it's obscene? Do you think it's a coincidence that these types of bans occur in the most religious areas of America?
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May 22 2012 03:52pm
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They say it's "obscene."  Why do you think they say it's obscene?  Do you think it's a coincidence that these types of bans occur in the most religious areas of America?


I'm not religious and I wouldn't want my kids to see sex in public.
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