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May 8 2012 12:52pm
Quote (thundercock @ May 8 2012 01:32pm)
Government is in the business of legislating morality.  Since that's the case, it shouldn't matter where people derive their sense of morality.  It could be from the Bible, the Qu'ran, Nietzsche, etc.  It does not matter.

Separation of church and state would dictate that holy marriage should have nothing to do with state marriage.  What you're advocating is disenfranchising people based on their opinion.


No it isn't, stop the slippery slope arguments they aren't legit.
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May 8 2012 12:53pm
Quote (Skinned @ May 8 2012 06:52pm)
No it isn't, stop the slippery slope arguments they aren't legit.


What? I'm not making a slippery slope argument...

What does "it" refer to? The legislation of morality?
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May 8 2012 01:03pm
Quote (thundercock @ May 8 2012 01:53pm)
What?  I'm not making a slippery slope argument...

What does "it" refer to?  The legislation of morality?


I don't need to explain how institutionalized discrimination based on something so arbitrary is unethical.

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May 8 2012 01:06pm
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I don't need to explain how institutionalized discrimination based on something so arbitrary is unethical.


It's been going on forever. How do you think nudists feel? What about polygamists? Prostitutes?

You're only upset because you're on the losing side on this specific issue...it is what it is.

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May 8 2012 02:50pm
Quote (thundercock @ May 8 2012 11:50am)
Are you sure about that?  Do you disagree with obscenity laws?  Do you think children should be able to purchase pornography?  Do you think that fecal matter should be allowed on billboards?

All of the above involves has to do with morality so you need to be careful when you make massive blanket statements like that.


It's not as if porn is out of the reach of minors. I don't really care if some horny 12 year old gets his hands on an issue of Playboy. Not too concerned with obscenity.
I will give you this though--public nudity is a good thing to ban.
Although you could argue that watching fat chicks walk around infringes upon my "pursuit of happiness".

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Defining what should count as a natural right and belong on government documents such as the Declaration of Independence IS legislating morality.


Everything starts somewhere. I'm starting with the basic ideas that the country was founded on.

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It's been going on forever.  How do you think nudists feel?  What about polygamists?  Prostitutes?

You're only upset because you're on the losing side on this specific issue...it is what it is.


Legalize prostitution and polygamy. Problem solved.
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May 8 2012 03:45pm
Quote (RUSSiABANK @ May 8 2012 04:51am)
They already have their rights. Now take marriage out of government ,and we have succeeded in separating another branch of church from state.

From yours truly,

RUSSiABANK


Interested in your perspective.

Do you think the state should handle marriage or that it should be entirely a personal matter?
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May 8 2012 04:24pm
Quote (BardOfXiix @ May 8 2012 08:50pm)
It's not as if porn is out of the reach of minors.  I don't really care if some horny 12 year old gets his hands on an issue of Playboy.  Not too concerned with obscenity.
I will give you this though--public nudity is a good thing to ban.
Although you could argue that watching fat chicks walk around infringes upon my "pursuit of happiness".

Everything starts somewhere.  I'm starting with the basic ideas that the country was founded on.

Legalize prostitution and polygamy.  Problem solved.


Any why is public nudity a good thing to ban? Why are you ok with legalizing polygamy and prostitution?
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May 8 2012 04:28pm
this man loved polygamy and prostitution







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May 8 2012 04:39pm
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It's been going on forever.  How do you think nudists feel?  What about polygamists?  Prostitutes?

You're only upset because you're on the losing side on this specific issue...it is what it is.


Lol you think it is going to get stopped.

That's cute :)
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May 8 2012 04:41pm
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Any why is public nudity a good thing to ban?  Why are you ok with legalizing polygamy and prostitution?


Seeing fat naked men on the streets interferes with my pursuit of happiness.
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