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#31
May 8 2012 10:47am
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i have been in the miltary and ''our troops'' violently rape women overseas.


Please give names of these soldiers so that they can be brought to justice.
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#32
May 8 2012 10:47am
What?
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May 8 2012 10:48am
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Please give names of these soldiers so that they can be brought to justice.


They aren't raping who he thinks.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/dec/09/rape-us-military

Soldiers sexually assaulting other soldiers is a very serious problem.

They will straight up discharge you for mental illness.

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#34
May 8 2012 10:51am
Yes.

He is the one that made it all possible and I thank him for diversifying the human experience everyday.
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May 8 2012 10:52am
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Yes.

He is the one that made it all possible and I thank him for diversifying the human experience everyday.


^5!

Satanism is a pretty cool guy. Eh liberates teh gays and doesn't afraid of nething.
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#36
May 8 2012 12:28pm
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That's the answer I was looking for :)

We should always try and we generally fail.  That's ok though in the eyes of God.

But let me go back to the other question of discouraging sin.  Should we encourage others not to sin?  Not to judge, but to help.  If so, is it appropriate to try and get gays to not commit homosexual acts?



No it is not their fault.  I imagine that God is pretty forgiving and he reaches out to people in different ways.


Whatever you want to do with your personal freedom you're welcome to do. But I have yet to see an argument providing a rational secular reason for banning gay marriage. With the first amendment providing separation of church and state, I don't see how anyone can support legislating religious beliefs onto another.
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#37
May 8 2012 12:32pm
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Whatever you want to do with your personal freedom you're welcome to do.  But I have yet to see an argument providing a rational secular reason for banning gay marriage.  With the first amendment providing separation of church and state, I don't see how anyone can support legislating religious beliefs onto another.


Government is in the business of legislating morality. Since that's the case, it shouldn't matter where people derive their sense of morality. It could be from the Bible, the Qu'ran, Nietzsche, etc. It does not matter.

Separation of church and state would dictate that holy marriage should have nothing to do with state marriage. What you're advocating is disenfranchising people based on their opinion.
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May 8 2012 12:46pm
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Government is in the business of legislating morality.  Since that's the case, it shouldn't matter where people derive their sense of morality.  It could be from the Bible, the Qu'ran, Nietzsche, etc.  It does not matter.

Separation of church and state would dictate that holy marriage should have nothing to do with state marriage.  What you're advocating is disenfranchising people based on their opinion.


I don't think government should legislate morality. They should legislate things that protect our "natural" rights, as stated by the Declaration of Independence. Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness (Life, of course, encompasses health concerns--not necessarily health care but like FDA stuff).
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May 8 2012 12:50pm
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I don't think government should legislate morality.  They should legislate things that protect our "natural" rights, as stated by the Declaration of Independence.  Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness (Life, of course, encompasses health concerns--not necessarily health care but like FDA stuff).


Are you sure about that? Do you disagree with obscenity laws? Do you think children should be able to purchase pornography? Do you think that fecal matter should be allowed on billboards?

All of the above involves has to do with morality so you need to be careful when you make massive blanket statements like that.

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May 8 2012 12:51pm
Quote (BardOfXiix @ May 8 2012 01:46pm)
I don't think government should legislate morality.  They should legislate things that protect our "natural" rights, as stated by the Declaration of Independence.  Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness (Life, of course, encompasses health concerns--not necessarily health care but like FDA stuff).


Defining what should count as a natural right and belong on government documents such as the Declaration of Independence IS legislating morality.
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