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Jul 24 2012 05:23pm
Quote (Ectasy @ Jul 25 2012 01:23am)
i didn't pick bubbles, idiot


but if you did, that means im the idiot picking MK.
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Jul 24 2012 05:24pm
Quote (trunghieu94 @ 24 Jul 2012 17:23)
but if you did, that means im the idiot picking MK.


what

This post was edited by Ectasy on Jul 24 2012 05:29pm
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Jul 24 2012 05:51pm
english... do u speak it?
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Jul 24 2012 05:53pm
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english... do u speak it?


engrish?
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Jul 25 2012 05:15am
Quote (sMACKTRiCKz @ Jul 25 2012 12:05am)
arachna, pebb, and tundra will do well against him, ramp does fine too since he can easily gank other lanes earlier and faster than MK.

arach and pebb really rape him 1vs1 if you play well. at level 4 pebb combo > MK, and arach can just constantly keep MK away from creeps IF (and that's a big if) the player is good enough to play the lane well and know when to go for harass, when to deny, when to ck, and how to position.

in general though the counter to MK isn't a single hero (because s2 designed MK and its still OP as fuck in general), but to get a large AoE lineup / push team with heals. He can't do shit against early push and gets raped in teamfights by AoE and heals.


"those heroes in THEORY should beat a MK. but will they really when a random pub plays them? let's see

dw - mid should be even pub vs pub. depends on who gets runes. DW should do fine most of the time, but might die because MK combo does ridiculous fuckton of damage even to high HP Heroes with low armor
salforis - same as above
moraxus - MK will pretty much never get a kill, but will also be able to CS pretty well against a typical pub moraxus player. and MK will never die to moraxus
nomad - pretty even since both heroes are retarded S2 trash implementations
silhouette - SHOULD win mid, but probably won't. won't be able to harass well enough if a pub player, will miss lots of CK and get denied alot by MK with hatchet. won't use grapple and shit at right times to own MK.
panda - MK wins easy level 1-5. By level 6 MK will probably have enough farm to survive Panda combo, and panda will probably get fucked in runes.
pebbles - should do fine, its pretty easymode and the combo hurts MK alot.
kraken - should do fine but most MK pubs will just out run control you then gank your sidelanes and win anyway
tundra - in theory would be good, but no pub can play this shit. he'll get outCK'd, outharassed, and out rune controlled since nobody can micro for shit. then overall will play bad rest of game, because once again can't micro or initiate for shit
rampage - gayest hero of time, of course he'll do fine
revenant - will get slammed, low HP and nobody will know how to properly harass with him while keeping up in CK
arachna - same as above, but even worse cuz no invis"

So now you're just saying what Imok is saying?
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Jul 25 2012 11:53am
Quote (Fookass @ Jul 25 2012 12:15pm)
"those heroes in THEORY should beat a MK. but will they really when a random pub plays them? let's see

dw - mid should be even pub vs pub. depends on who gets runes. DW should do fine most of the time, but might die because MK combo does ridiculous fuckton of damage even to high HP Heroes with low armor
salforis - same as above
moraxus - MK will pretty much never get a kill, but will also be able to CS pretty well against a typical pub moraxus player. and MK will never die to moraxus
nomad - pretty even since both heroes are retarded S2 trash implementations
silhouette - SHOULD win mid, but probably won't. won't be able to harass well enough if a pub player, will miss lots of CK and get denied alot by MK with hatchet. won't use grapple and shit at right times to own MK.
panda - MK wins easy level 1-5. By level 6 MK will probably have enough farm to survive Panda combo, and panda will probably get fucked in runes.
pebbles - should do fine, its pretty easymode and the combo hurts MK alot.
kraken - should do fine but most MK pubs will just out run control you then gank your sidelanes and win anyway
tundra - in theory would be good, but no pub can play this shit. he'll get outCK'd, outharassed, and out rune controlled since nobody can micro for shit. then overall will play bad rest of game, because once again can't micro or initiate for shit
rampage - gayest hero of time, of course he'll do fine
revenant - will get slammed, low HP and nobody will know how to properly harass with him while keeping up in CK
arachna - same as above, but even worse cuz no invis"

So now you're just saying what Imok is saying?


isn't that my post you just quoted?
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Jul 25 2012 02:39pm
just played a game vs MK as hag. i think you still have disadvantage but you can beat most players if you skill like:

haunt/blink/haunt/scream x4 / no ulti until 8. 2 levels of haunt seems to be just enough to have good enough slow / damage to keep him away from creeps, 1 lvl seems to just tickle him a bit.

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