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Apr 11 2012 01:39pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Apr 11 2012 01:35pm)
...do you actually maintain that one of the roles of science is to disprove the existence of God ?


Do you actually maintain that one of the roles of rhetoric is to pretend to misunderstand anything you don't agree with? As I clearly state, the role of science is to try to prove and disprove theories by examining evidence. Now, if you want to pretend your religion is science, then it is very much the role of science to disprove you.
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Apr 11 2012 01:41pm
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Everything is wrong with trying to give religion equal footing with science in a science class.  It's not like they want to encourage debate on various theories of evolution or mechanisms of climate change.  I might also note they didn't mandate teaching alternative economic theories like Marxism.

And just because people never seem to get it:

“Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts do not go away when scientists debate rival theories for explaining them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's, but apples did not suspend themselves in mid-air pending the outcome. And humans evolved from apelike ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered.” 

--Stephen Jay Gould


I think creationism should be part of social studies if taught, not part of science class.

Science class should only be for things testable with the scientific method and observable with empirical evidence.

But don't think the two are mutually exclusive either. Plenty of people believe in both.

I would like it if schools taught more about religion, as well as politics, economics, criminal justice, education, the concept of family and how it differs through the years and by culture....AKA teach sociology in High School.

And for the record I don't personally believe in creationism or divinity, but most of the world does.
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Apr 11 2012 01:43pm
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Do you actually maintain that one of the roles of rhetoric is to pretend to misunderstand anything you don't agree with? As I clearly state, the role of science is to try to prove and disprove theories by examining evidence. Now, if you want to pretend your religion is science, then it is very much the role of science to disprove you.


...your animosity toward Christianity has totally blinded you and quite a few others in this discussion . Your rigidity makes me seem as flexible as Mr Fantastc .
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Apr 11 2012 01:44pm
Quote (JEB90 @ Apr 11 2012 03:39pm)
Do you actually maintain that one of the roles of rhetoric is to pretend to misunderstand anything you don't agree with?  As I clearly state, the role of science is to try to prove and disprove theories by examining evidence.  Now, if you want to pretend your religion is science, then it is very much the role of science to disprove you.


Don't bother, you won't get a straight answer...ever...once you prove him wrong, you'll get one or two roundabout insults and then he'll leave the thread



Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Apr 11 2012 03:43pm)
...your animosity toward Christianity has totally blinded you and quite a few others in this discussion . Your rigidity makes me seem as flexible as Mr Fantastc .

right on queue

This post was edited by bitg_pj on Apr 11 2012 01:44pm
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Don't bother, you won't get a straight answer...ever...once you prove him wrong, you'll get one or two roundabout insults and then he'll leave the thread


...and now the gossip starts :rofl:
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Apr 11 2012 01:46pm
imagine if they taught about the muslim religion in those tennesse schools i bet all hell would break out lol
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Apr 11 2012 01:51pm
Quote (GenkiSudo @ Apr 11 2012 12:04pm)
If Intellligent Design is shot down multiple times in court as being unconstitutional, why do they keep trying?


Allows is different than forces.

Did they shoot down Kansas yet? That's the only one I've ever heard about, and that was years ago.
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Apr 11 2012 01:55pm
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Allows is different than forces.

Did they shoot down Kansas yet?  That's the only one I've ever heard about, and that was years ago.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10545387/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/judge-rules-against-intelligent-design/#.T4XhPDLE2Ag
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Apr 11 2012 02:00pm
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‘We were robbed’
“I’m still waiting for a judge or anyone to show me anywhere in the Constitution where there’s a separation of church and state,” he said. “We didn’t lose; we were robbed.”


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Apr 11 2012 02:03pm
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Oh dear... that was special.
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